re: How Do White People From Alabama Feel About "Selma" Here?

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quote: No one should "feel" guilty for anything that they had no part in personally I'm pretty sure most everyone has stated they don't feel a certain way about it and have just simply shown an indifference to it, other than the fact that it happened and we're far removed from that as a society, nationally and regionally now.

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We agree, Alahunter. I have actually agreed with a lot of what you have said and DID NOT write some kind of loaded OP just trying to make white people feel bad.

You answered a lot of my questions just wondering how people saw the past history. That was my point. It was open ended. I see history as very much connected to the present, but my academic background is in history over a couple of different degrees, so I have learned to think that way. Plus, I just think that way anyway. Not everyone does, though, so it is good to hear different perspectives.

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So do we.

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Nah. You really don't. Which is a shame, because you had some good insights in some of your comments.

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Nah. You really don't.

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Incorrect

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I see history as setting up the circumstances for the present. It's up to the people in the present to not repeat the mistakes of the past and better circumstances for the future.

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I agree. We are all responsible for what we do. But, people become conditioned by their heritage. We are not all born as a completely clean slate without any influence from what came before. The more that we know about the past, the more that we are able to understand the fallacies that we have unthinkingly brought forward from the past and the more that we are able to take responsibility for ourselves in making a better future.

And, no, you obviously don't have a clue as to my intentions in this post. It was to have the kind of conversation that you are and I are having right now - not to go on for page after page with people like Genro.

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We are not all born as a completely clean slate without any influence from what came before.

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Didn't say that.

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The more that we know about the past, the more that we are able to understand the fallacies that we have unthinkingly brought forward from the past

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Also agree.

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And, no, you obviously don't have a clue as to my intentions in this post.

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Incorrect, once again

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. It was to have the kind of conversation that you are and I are having right now

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Not my fault you couched your question in the OP poorly. Asking a disingenuous question such as "how do white people feel about 'Selma'" was stupid on your part.

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Slavery exists today. It existed 3000 yrs ago, longer. Hell, Communism/Socialism fell less than a couple of generations ago, yet this very country is started down that path with its foot heavy on the pedal. Human nature is what it is. Power and greed will always exist. And people will be shortsighted in a quest for Utopia. It will never change.

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I like to think that it doesn't have to be repeated if we know why things happened and we can understand how those things affected us. The purpose of studying history is to learn from it so that we will be wiser and not repeat it. I am less interested in declaring that white people were all racists (which is not true) than I am in understanding WHY it happened the way it did, WHY it was so hard to change, and HOW that past has affected us - which it has. Just look at the political parties in Alabama. Among many other things.

We can learn. We don't have to repeat everything. But, what you say about human nature is definitely true - we will have problems like this in one form or another forever.

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HOW that past has affected us - which it has

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The people directly affected and maybe a generation or two, are the ones that make the biggest changes. After that.. the injustices for anyone in any scenario is just something taught for the most part. Rome was once a great Republic, just as we are/have been. But are we not on similar paths as it was towards it's end? While a few generations may not repeat it's mistakes.. overall, human nature will cause us to. The roles could be reversed or the same. In the end, it does not matter, because over time.. it too will change. The more things change, the more they stay the same. Technology has simply made it to where people are less attentive and lazy and will eventually lead them to subjugation much easily down the road one way or the other. Imho, of course.

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have actually agreed with a lot of what you have said and DID NOT write some kind of loaded OP just trying to make white people feel bad. 

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I didn't take your post like that and it didn't really even cross my mind that you did until others mentioned it, I still don't believe you had any ill intentions. Like I mentioned, I lived in Selma for 7 years (7-12th grade). I didn't do any of the bad things that happened during the March to Montgomery, don't have any relatives that were involved either. Selma was pretty segregated in where people lived but for the most part everyone got along. There were a lot of farming families, a lot of textile manufacturing (we were involved in that business in Union town) , lumber Mill workers , Bush Hog factory and Henry Brick were some of the bigger businesses.

I do know that I got a bad rap from people who didn't know me and ASSUMED BASED SALES ON WHERE I WAS FROM, that I was some sort of racist or was involved in racist acts. It was very irritating to day the least. Usually I just said, well you are stereotyping, have a closed mind and are just as dumb as those you're looking down on.

I don't really think about the topic much at all anymore.

And I've explained how I view those questions to be based in ignorance

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DGAF. I haven't done shite to black people.

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Exactly.

And to add to that ... I'm fricking tired of hearing about it by the leftists and the hollywood fricktards.

Every year it's a new movie stirring up bullshite conversations and threads just like this one.

frick it.

I know plenty of whites who have had it just as hard, or harder, than blacks these days. Latinos too by gosh.

Restitution has been paid for fifty plus years now and look where it has gotten many African-Americans. It's a fricking shame and pitiful.

Let's look at the shite hollywood has put-out just in the past few years alone ... and remember, if you wanna be nominated for an Academy Award, just make a movie about how badly white people treat blacks or make one about gay men slurping slong and how badly they are treated.

It just pisses me the frick off. Many of my black friends feel the same way btw. Off the top of my head in my lifetime ... it really all started going over the top in '67.

1962 ... To Kill a Mockingbird (Great Movie!)
1967 ... Guess Who's Coming to Dinner
1967 ... In the Heat of the Night
1967 ... To Sir, with Love
1985 ... The Color Purple
1988 ... Mississippi Burning
1989 ... Driving Miss Daisey (Great Movie!)
1992 ... Malcom X (I actually liked this movie although it is historically bullshite)
1996 ... A Time to Kill
1997 ... Rosewood (I actually rented property outside of Mt Dora to them during filming.)
1999 ... The Hurricane
2004 ... Crash
2011 ... The Help
2012 ... Django Unchained (Great Movie!)
2012 ... Beasts of the Southern Wild
2013 ... 12 Years a Slave
2013 ... 42 (Great Movie!)
2013 ... The Butler
2014 ... Dear White People
2014 ... Selma

... and that's just the tip of the bullshite pot stirring iceberg.

So frick Selma and that lying sack of shite producer, director, whatever she is.

Nobody goes to see them at the theaters, but then they sell big rights to cable and make tons of money and spread the word via the free cable service Uncle Sugar offers-up ... along with the free phones, free food, free medical, free college etc., etc., etc.

Don't get me fricking started.

And even worse ... Public Television, paid for with tax dollars, is a fricking propaganda network devoted almost entirely to prolonging the revisionist history and false narrative.

What happened in the 60s in the South was not cool ... totally wrong, most of us knew it. But the problem was the MSM, even then, focused on little pockets of discontent, especially in Alabama and Mississippi, and they played it to the hilt and stirred the shite up to the point where it flowed over into all of our lives.