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re: How Do White People From Alabama Feel About "Selma" Here?

Posted on 1/11/15 at 8:29 pm to
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 8:29 pm to
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The Butler was kind of like "Forrest Gump Meets the Civil Rights Movement." It was just too much.


Apt analogy.

Also kinda ironic for me since I liked both FG and obivously the CRM. But yeah, The Butler was just too heavy-handed for me.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 10:01 pm to
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In the vast scheme of things, that really is not a lot of movies over the course of 53 years.


That's the fricking ones I remember.

They've made hundreds.

Hell, if you count the bullshite TV shows ... thousands.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 10:09 pm to
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That's really not that bad considering your time range spans nearly 50 years, ijs

Pretty sure I've only seen about half of those myself.

ETA: less than half (bolded)


My lifespan is closer to mid-60s, than nearly 50.

And those, as I stated, were just the ones I remembered off the top of my head.

There have been literally 100s of movies made on the subject, and if you count the TV shows, 1000s.

Here's my point ...

So this "Selma" movie took place in '63-'64 I'm assuming ... I'm assuming the bitch at least got that part historically correct.

Within three years there were three movies, two of which dealt with interracial marriage/love relationships and the other which dealt with a black man, Mr Tibbs, showing all the white law enforcement people how dumb they were.

Within three years of the Selma voting drive.

From that point forward white women have been willingly bending over for black men on the big screen ... while white men continue to rape, pillage and burn the poor black women on the big screen, and the little screen.

It's bullshite Tbird. Absolutely fricking bullshite.

Even the good guy, the good guy mind you, in Django, was a fricking Nazi ... not a white guy. All the white guys were us stereotypical bad guy Southern rednecks.

frick it.
This post was edited on 1/11/15 at 10:10 pm
Posted by AUbagman
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:20 pm to
I wish there were more movies that showcased the atrocities Native Americans faced. At times, it feels like America's Holocaust, forgotten and not truthfully taught in schools.
Posted by AlaTiger
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 5:48 am to
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So this "Selma" movie took place in '63-'64 I'm assuming ... I'm assuming the bitch at least got that part historically correct.


Selma happened in 1965. You should learn some basic history.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 6:02 am to
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Within three years there were three movies, two of which dealt with interracial marriage/love relationships


I greatly approve of this I wish there were more

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Even the good guy, the good guy mind you, in Django, was a fricking Nazi


Christoph Waltz' character was just german, I thought? Haven't watched the movie in a bit, but I don't recall any particular Nazi ideology. If I'm wrong, I apologize.

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From that point forward white women have been willingly bending over for black men on the big screen ... while white men continue to rape, pillage and burn the poor black women on the big screen, and the little screen.


Eh, I disagree. Just watched a movie the other day on HBO with a black girl and a white dude getting married at the end of the rom-com. I agree it's not as prevalent, though.

And I second the poster who said they wished for more movies highlighting the native american plight. Huge part of our history that we tend to gloss over.
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 8:41 am to
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Being real, His questions are bigoted and come from a place of extreme ignorance


I didn't get that from his questions, but I do think you're being a clown in this thread. But that's par for the course with you.
Posted by genro
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 8:48 am to
Well I did. And I was, at times because I felt like it
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:07 am to
Well, congrats on turning a well-intentioned thread into an attack the messenger thread I guess.
Posted by genro
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:09 am to
I don't believe it was a well intentioned thread and others have said the same
Posted by Stan Gable
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 11:31 am to
I'm sure it will be another "powerful" film to get the white-guilt/black anger flowing.
Posted by CrimsonCrusade
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 5:19 pm to
I'm tired of hearing about it 24/7, quite frankly. Especially with another black movie done by official "whitest black person ever" Oprah Winfrey. I'm tired of certain areas of the country being blamed for a nationwide history of racism. I'm also tired of being made to feel guilty for things that happened when my parents were infants.
Posted by AlaTiger
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:19 pm to
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I'm also tired of being made to feel guilty for things that happend when my parents were infants.


One, no one can make you feel guilty.

Two, you should not feel guilty for anything that you haven't done.

Three, you can learn about history and then reflect on how what happened in the past might have affected us up until the present, and

Four, you can think about ways that we can try to move forward with those who are still affected by the past - which happens in every society, by the way. I know that because I know history.

But, do not feel guilty for something that you had no role in. That makes no sense.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:25 pm to
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One, no one can make you feel guilty.

Two, you should not feel guilty for anything that you haven't done.


This.

When I happen to watch a black struggle movie with my wife, she doesn't leave with any guilt and I don't leave with any anger towards her.

Our main takeaway is relief that we live in THIS window of time in our country, appreciation for those who came before us and fought to change the status quo, and hope for continuing to improve race relations in the future.

White guilt/black anger are destructive reactions.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:28 pm to
They feel that they are racist and that is part of their racist past.
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:35 pm to
White guilt is one the dumbest terms ever.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 10:45 pm to
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I'm sure it will be another "powerful" film to get the white-guilt/black anger flowing.


My point exactly.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 10:49 pm to
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When I happen to watch a black struggle movie with my wife, she doesn't leave with any guilt and I don't leave with any anger towards her.

Our main takeaway is relief that we live in THIS window of time in our country, appreciation for those who came before us and fought to change the status quo, and hope for continuing to improve race relations in the future.


TBird ... puh-leaze.

"Black struggle movie?" Really?

So how do you feel when you watch a "white struggle movie?"

Oh, errrr, wait ... they don't make those. I withdraw my question. I mean, after all, we whites have always had it handed to us ... amirite?

lulz
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 10:56 pm to
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"Black struggle movie?" Really?


It's just a descriptor Black people did have to struggle both for freedom and for civil rights. Not sure what the issue is.

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how do you feel when you watch a "white struggle movie?"


Like, any movie about Europeans?

If you're talking about American whites, the majority typically doesn't have to struggle, so not sure what you're getting at.

But if you wanna go there, we could name movies that had to do with the American Revolution
This post was edited on 1/12/15 at 10:57 pm
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:11 am to
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It's just a descriptor Black people did have to struggle both for freedom and for civil rights. Not sure what the issue is.


Yeah ... right. We know. We just got on boats, with little to nothing, sailed across the deep blue sea, got off the boats and it was all waiting on us. Everything was handed to us. No hardships. No pioneering. No fighting for rights and independence.

Sheeeesh. All my family history dating back to the mid to late 1600s in this country ... I need to go tell Mom and Dad it was all bullshite. How tough my ancestors had it. All the wars my ancestors fought-in for independence, for states rights, to just own a couple of acres of land ... to sharecrop in South Carolina and Mississippi and Tennessee. The sacrifices to start our own businesses, to raise families without a government handout.

Yeah - no struggles. It was all handed to us.

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Like, any movie about Europeans?

If you're talking about American whites, the majority typically doesn't have to struggle, so not sure what you're getting at.

But if you wanna go there, we could name movies that had to do with the American Revolution


Any movie about Europeans? Wut?

Majority of whites typically doesn't have to struggle?

lulz

The white middle class is the fastest declining sector of this country ... because they are carrying the leaches on their backs, the leaches on the government dole, the white middle class is with their overtaxed, overburdened $50-$75k American dream, of which more than half is being taken away from them by Uncle Sugar and given to other people just so they can breed more liberal progressive voters.

40% of this country, the working 40% ... is paying for the other 60%. That's a fact. And the number of people on welfare and government assistance has doubled in the past six years ... "Obama money," "Obama phones," "Obamacare." It's just bullshite.

The "majority" black man is still a slave ... he's just a better paid, less worked and less driven slave than he was before. He's like the sheep and cow in the field ... as long as they are being fed and left to do as they will, they're happy. It's pathetic. I drive by corners in every small town where the "majority" black man is standing on the corner, around a 55 gallon drum full of broken pallets burning, drinking cheap liquor and waiting on the welfare checks. Our education system is in the crapper ... why is that? Fifty years ago it was the finest on the planet. Now we're what, 28th in the world? And it's sinking fast too because of the shithooks in the schools letting anything and everything go ... Detroit and Memphis are two fine examples of formerly shining cities on the hill gone to shite.

Movies about the American Revolution? How about movies about the sacrifices made during every war since ... by majority white people? About how so many of us "majority white people" stood up for our fellow human beings, sometimes against our own families, when it came to civil rights, to equal opportunity?

How about movies about white people being brutally murdered by entitled blacks? About white people walking down the road and having some black punk sneak up behind them and hammer them in the nugget over some "knockout" game ... 100s of them! Women now paralyzed, old people dead, either from the punch or from their head hitting the pavement. Or the 72 year old white man I saw on the news the other night who was hit from behind in Chicago and is now paralyzed ... for simply walking down the street he has lived-on since 1951!

But let's not limit it to just blacks and whites. By gosh let's get the Chinese and Koreans involved, and the Latinos! How many Korean businesses were burned to the ground during the Rodney King riots? How many business were burned to the ground during the Ferguson riots ... and by whom? But they ain't havin' it tough right now ... and it's all the white man's fault. shite ... I guess everyone has had it easy ... oh, except the blacks.

Thankfully, I know very few blacks, or at least none that I call friends, who subscribe to this constant bullshite about how mistreated they are. Sure, every now and then I'll hear something about a perceived slight by a LEO because someone was driving a nice car ... but even that is usually laughed off. Hell, I've been pulled-over for driving my old truck and looking like a redneck. I was once even pulled because I was a well-known Gamecock fan driving in Clemson country near the home of a recruit ... and I didn't even know it ... by a Clemson fan cop who ran my tags because he saw the sticker on my car.

I laughed all that crap off. Most sane people with thick skin and without an entitlement mentality do ... oh, and we do what the cops ask us to do, especially when a gun is drawn. That's called, "making it easy on yourself." Or, "taking personal responsibility for one's actions."

Here's the problem with your way of thinking TBird ... IMHO.

If Hollywood and TV keeps pushing this false narrative about how whites are out to get blacks ... and they keep stirring the shite, well, eventually it's all gonna blow-up and this thing of ours, this great experiment we like to call The United States of America ... it's gonna all come crashing down. People of all colors on both sides are getting tired of the bullshite being perpetrated upon us - the non-stop lies, the revisionist history and the fricking shite stirring false-narratives about this and that or whoever has sand up their asses on a particular day.

It's getting old. That's all I'm saying.
This post was edited on 1/13/15 at 12:23 am
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