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Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:34 pm to KSGamecock
Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:34 pm to KSGamecock
https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=896_1416967684
Police Scanner from Ferguson. Everything quiet.
Schizophrenic episode a bit earlier though.
Oh nevermind, a fire.
Police Scanner from Ferguson. Everything quiet.
Schizophrenic episode a bit earlier though.
Oh nevermind, a fire.
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Posted on 11/26/14 at 12:33 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Is this what the Rodney King riots were like with Hipster lighter fluid added to the fires?
Posted on 11/26/14 at 2:27 am to GenesChin
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Is this what the Rodney King riots were like with Hipster lighter fluid added to the fires?
IMHO the RK riots were worse ... as were the Watts Riots before them.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 7:38 am to scrooster
So let me see if I understand the facts in Ferguson:
1. Police shoot man
2. "Protesters" loot liquor stores, burn Autozone and other businesses to the ground
3. "Protesters" in distant places block roads including interstate
So if all Autozones and private businesses were burned to the ground and free liquor was given to everybody, we would have social justice.
I do not think this method of "community organizing" will lead to positive change.
1. Police shoot man
2. "Protesters" loot liquor stores, burn Autozone and other businesses to the ground
3. "Protesters" in distant places block roads including interstate
So if all Autozones and private businesses were burned to the ground and free liquor was given to everybody, we would have social justice.
I do not think this method of "community organizing" will lead to positive change.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 7:50 am to GenesChin
The Rodney King stuff was quite a bit worse. People were killed. Much property was destroyed.
These riots show progress as a society.
These riots show progress as a society.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 8:49 am to GenesChin
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Is this what the Rodney King riots were like with Hipster lighter fluid added to the fires?
Ferguson is a joke compared to the RK/LA riots. RK riots lasted 6 days and claimed the lives of 53 people.
edit* Also the most costly riot in American history. 1.2 Billion in damages.
This post was edited on 11/26/14 at 8:51 am
Posted on 11/26/14 at 8:54 am to Stan Gable
Much like the trayvon riots, the rioters of today are pussies compared to the 90s and 80s rioters.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 8:57 am to heartbreakTiger
They don't actually care about justice
Posted on 11/26/14 at 9:42 am to Duke
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These riots show progress as a society.
At least they kind of had a reason during RK.
A 300 pound dude starts punching you, you're probably gonna shoot him.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 10:13 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I don't know why this case has been the one championed. Could not have picked a worse case. As 808 astutely noted on the political board, they'd have a lot more of every other race sympathetic to their cause if this was a legitimate case.
Instead the racial lines are more pronounced.
Instead the racial lines are more pronounced.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 10:20 am to Duke
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I don't know why this case has been the one championed.
I think the hoopla would have died down had the police been a little more forthcoming with information in the immediate days following the incident. When they were being secretive about some things(which is somewhat understandable with an ongoing investigation) it opened the door for investigative reporters to dig around on older cases. Once they started reporting on some prior transgressions with the Ferguson PD, it added fuel to the fire. Then you had the ridiculous decision by the police to release the video of Brown shoplifting the cigarillos, and the avalanche couldn't be stopped.
It's not an ideal case to rally around, but coupled with the reporting on past cases with the Ferguson PD, it's somewhat understandable why it has been championed.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 10:25 am to The Spleen
I understand the how and whys to a degree, but it's the legitimate cases that need this level of outrage. Once the facts trickled out, it should have been left alone. There's obviously a breakdown in police and civilian relations happening in America. It needs to be thrust into the public eye. When you instead have a case where the outrage doesn't match the facts, you get a divide on race instead. Destructive. Not constructive, even if legitimate issues are really at the heart of it.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 10:33 am to Duke
True. The case where the cop choked the guy to death in New York was way more egregious than this one was simply because there is video of the incident.
What we should be talking about in the Brown case is at what point are we going to allow police to use deadly force. Brown appears to have been in the wrong, but was his wrong worthy of being shot to death? As the law is written, probably so. That is if you believe Wilson's account of things, which I'm still skeptical on some of his account. But I have a problem with that because it comes down to the subjectivity of the cop when there are no corroborating witnesses. A cop can simply say he feared for his life and we're rubber stamping these killings.
But yeah, instead it's come down to a racial argument, which is an aspect I don't think can be ignored, but it is not the main issue.
What we should be talking about in the Brown case is at what point are we going to allow police to use deadly force. Brown appears to have been in the wrong, but was his wrong worthy of being shot to death? As the law is written, probably so. That is if you believe Wilson's account of things, which I'm still skeptical on some of his account. But I have a problem with that because it comes down to the subjectivity of the cop when there are no corroborating witnesses. A cop can simply say he feared for his life and we're rubber stamping these killings.
But yeah, instead it's come down to a racial argument, which is an aspect I don't think can be ignored, but it is not the main issue.
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