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re: Duck Dynasty and the great pussification of America
Posted on 12/19/13 at 11:46 am to Spaceman Spiff
Posted on 12/19/13 at 11:46 am to Spaceman Spiff
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Thats the way this board works...
Yeah I just figuered it would veer onto one of the many more obvious tangents.
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 11:54 am to Stonehog
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Extremely. Right wing Christians are so anti-socialist, even though Jesus said we should all be equal when it comes to wealth.
No he didn't
Posted on 12/19/13 at 12:00 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Yes he did. I've already provided numerous examples from scripture if you care to read the last few pages of this thread.
Here's another just for good measure:
Sounds like redistribution of wealth to me.
Here's another just for good measure:
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“The man with two tunics should share with him who has none, and the one who has food should do the same.” (Luke 3:11)
Sounds like redistribution of wealth to me.
This post was edited on 12/19/13 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 12/19/13 at 12:03 pm to Stonehog
Yeah, tons of good proof-texting in this thread. Hell, tattoos are sinful too and men, cut your hair so you don't go to hell.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 12:06 pm to sorantable
Tattoos and hair length were rendered moot with the New Covenant. However, wealth accumulation is a sin in both testaments.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 12:14 pm to Stonehog
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Tattoos and hair length were rendered moot with the New Covenant. However, wealth accumulation is a sin in both testaments.
stonehog pls.
Accumulation of wealth is never regarded as sin one time.
Love of money is. Not being charitable is. Greed is. You will not find a single passage of scripture that says you can't have money, and lots of it.
but to make you look a little more ignorant:
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 12:14 pm to sorantable
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Hell, tattoos are sinful too
You leave my tattoos outta this
Posted on 12/19/13 at 12:18 pm to AUnite
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Hell, tattoos are sinful too
You leave my tattoos outta this
Yep don't frick with my artwork
Posted on 12/19/13 at 12:19 pm to 3nOut
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Accumulation of wealth is never regarded as sin one time.
It's regarded as sin lots of times. If you're giving all you have to the poor as Jesus instructs, you can't accumulate wealth.
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“But if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that.” (1 Tim 6:8)
Posted on 12/19/13 at 12:22 pm to Spaceman Spiff
That show is one of the stupidest shows that I've ever seen.
That being said, who cares what he believes in. If you don't like the fact that he's a Jesus freak, don't watch the show. It's that simple.
That being said, who cares what he believes in. If you don't like the fact that he's a Jesus freak, don't watch the show. It's that simple.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 12:27 pm to 3nOut
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Accumulation of wealth is never regarded as sin one time.
Love of money is. Not being charitable is. Greed is.
So you say greed is a sin, but keeping a bunch of money for yourself isn't a sin? Accumulation of wealth IS greed.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 12:32 pm to Stonehog
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Yes he did. I've already provided numerous examples from scripture if you care to read the last few pages of this thread.
Nowhere in any of the scriptures does it say that we should all be equal in terms of wealth.
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quote:“The man with two tunics should share with him who has none, and the one who has food should do the same.” (Luke 3:11)
Sounds like redistribution of wealth to me.
If you think this is a gotcha verse then you are sadly mistaken. Jesus said that we should be generous to others, he never said that government should take wealth from the accumulators against their will to redistribute to the poor.
Try again
Posted on 12/19/13 at 12:37 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Our desire is not that others might be relieved while you are hard pressed, but that there might be equality. At the present time your plenty will supply what they need, so that in turn their plenty will supply what you need. The goal is equality, as it is written: “The one who gathered much did not have too much, and the one who gathered little did not have too little." (2 Cor 8:13-15)
This post was edited on 12/19/13 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 12/19/13 at 12:38 pm to Stonehog
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So you say greed is a sin, but keeping a bunch of money for yourself isn't a sin? Accumulation of wealth IS greed.
so at what percentage do i have to give away to not be in sin?
Posted on 12/19/13 at 12:40 pm to Stonehog
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Our desire is not that others might be relieved while you are hard pressed, but that there might be equality. At the present time your plenty will supply what they need, so that in turn their plenty will supply what you need. The goal is equality, as it is written: “The one who gathered much did not have too much, and the one who gathered little did not have too little." (2 Cor 8:13-15)
Context is a hell of a drug.
8 I am not commanding you, but I want to test the sincerity of your love by comparing it with the earnestness of others. 9 For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though he was rich, yet for your sake he became poor, so that you through his poverty might become rich.
10 And here is my judgment about what is best for you in this matter. Last year you were the first not only to give but also to have the desire to do so. 11 Now finish the work, so that your eager willingness to do it may be matched by your completion of it, according to your means. 12 For if the willingness is there, the gift is acceptable according to what one has, not according to what one does not have.
13 Our desire is not that others might be relieved while you are hard pressed, but that there might be equality. 14 At the present time your plenty will supply what they need, so that in turn their plenty will supply what you need. The goal is equality, 15 as it is written: “The one who gathered much did not have too much, and the one who gathered little did not have too little.”[b]
that's a request by Paul. Not a commandment by God
Posted on 12/19/13 at 12:40 pm to 3nOut
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so at what percentage do i have to give away to not be in sin?
You can only have what you need - clothing, shelter, and food. If you have a 65" flat screen that's a sin.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 12:50 pm to Spaceman Spiff
About the time Obama became president.
I've said it before, vocal minorities (as in not all gays, not all minority races, but the loud vocal minority of those groups) don't want to be equal, they want to be better than everyone else. They scream equality when that isn't what they want.
I've said it before, vocal minorities (as in not all gays, not all minority races, but the loud vocal minority of those groups) don't want to be equal, they want to be better than everyone else. They scream equality when that isn't what they want.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 12:54 pm to Stonehog
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2 Cor 8:13-15)
Did you happen to catch the preceding 12 verses when you googling bible passages that you think support your argument? You should check them out.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 12:54 pm to Stonehog
I just read the scripture for what it was and came to the conclusion that being rich is essentially greed. And also the one about a camel and a needle was pretty up front. Was pretty clear.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 1:01 pm to cas4t
Command those who are rich in this present world not to be arrogant nor to put their hope in wealth, which is so uncertain, but to put their hope in God, who richly provides us with everything for our enjoyment. Command them to do good, to be rich in good deeds, and to be generous and willing to share. In this way they will lay up treasure for themselves as a firm foundation for the coming age, so that they may take hold of the life that is truly life. (1 Timothy 6:17-19)
It's not a sin to have wealth. It's a sin if you idolize money, do not do good deeds with your money or you do not tithe.
The scripture I just posted, sums up why I work and do the things I do. A man is measured by what he leaves his children's children.
It's not a sin to have wealth. It's a sin if you idolize money, do not do good deeds with your money or you do not tithe.
The scripture I just posted, sums up why I work and do the things I do. A man is measured by what he leaves his children's children.
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