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re: 9/11 Was A Conspiracy!
Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:32 pm to Sleeping Tiger
Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:32 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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At least 19 pages worth of posts have nothing to do with the topic, which isn't that far off of the norm around these parts.
And arguing with at least 2 experts who are in a field you're not in.
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Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:33 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Does this thread seriously have 25 fricking pages?
How could it not?
Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:36 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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most folks on here aren't being paid in tax dollars and seen as heroic figures because of their employer, kind of an important detail.
So this is what bothers you
I have never glorified my job on here or anywhere else. I'm a freaking Supply troop. Nothing glamorous at all. If folks appreciate that I wear a uniform, fine. If not, fine. No skin off my nose tbh.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:37 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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And arguing with at least 2 experts who are in a field you're not in.
I'm not sharing anything that an 'expert' doesn't also believe. There are engineers, architects, and pilots that don't buy the official story.
And nothing that the 'expert's in this thread said were applied to the world trade center towers. Essentially it was shown that steel loses integrity under intense heat, great, now apply it to the intricate design of the towers.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:40 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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Essentially it was shown that steel loses integrity under intense heat, great, now apply it to the intricate design of the towers.
Did it cross your mind, even for a second, that they were lying? Or even mistaken?
Why on Earth do you think the rest of the experts follow the same narrative? The sources you've posited have completely backtracked on their comments.
Do you have any significant sources to give us? People have asked you repeatedly (six) to give evidence, and you haven't given anything yet.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:40 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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So this is what bothers you
When I'm told that lots of people post while being paid it's important to note that the man in question is being paid in tax dollars. It really has nothing to do with being bothered, it has more to do with the spirit of accuracy.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:43 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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When I'm told that lots of people post while being paid it's important to note that the man in question is being paid in tax dollars.
So because I get paid (meager wages, I might add) in tax dollars, I lose the right to contribute to a message board?
That is preposterous and you know it
Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:44 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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When I'm told that lots of people post while being paid it's important to note that the man in question is being paid in tax dollars. It really has nothing to do with being bothered, it has more to do with the spirit of accuracy.
This is exactly why people associate "Sleeping Tiger" with disorder.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:44 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Do you have any significant sources to give us? People have asked you repeatedly (six) to give evidence, and you haven't given anything yet.
You do realize that fully explaining this with full sources ect would require multiple novels worth of information.
There are full books dedicated to small aspects of this event. And you want it explained in a message board thread.
I didn't start this thread, I would never choose this to go about this debate the way the OP did, I got pulled in and I'm still here, oh well, mistake made, lesson learned, but I still enjoy it a little.
Why is it my responsibly to do all of your work. It really doesn't matter to me what you think or what this board thinks.
Comments such as 'do you have any significant sources to give us' come from a place of such deep ignorance on this topic that I don't even know what to say, it's paralyzing. It leaves me speechless.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:46 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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Comments such as 'do you have any significant sources to give us' come from a place of such deep ignorance on this topic that I don't even know what to say, it's paralyzing. It leaves me speechless.
It's not paralyzing.
And not giving sources is part of your MO whether you realize it or not. It just allows more deniability as the specificity of the claim cannot be proven wrong because there's no real specific claim made by you.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:47 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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This is exactly why people associate "Sleeping Tiger" with disorder.
This is exactly why I sense a combination of aggression, hate, obsession, and fear from your posts.
You're clearly on a witch hunt, you're loving how vulnerable I am right now because of how some of our conversations in the past have gone.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:47 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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It leaves me speechless.
This would be extremely beneficial to you.
So your reasoning is: This is my opinion, it's too complex and expansive for any of you to understand so I won't give any sources whatsoever.
Gotchya.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:48 pm to Sleeping Tiger
Asking for significant sources=deep ignorance
This thread continues to deliver thanks to the lone monkey up in here by the name of Sleeping Tiger
Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:48 pm to the808bass
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And not giving sources is part of your MO whether you realize it or not. It just allows more deniability as the specificity of the claim cannot be proven wrong because there's no real specific claim made by you.
Well, I mean, I have given sources in this thread, many.
We haven't really talked about much in this thread, most of it was centered around the molten metal issue.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:51 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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So your reasoning is: This is my opinion, it's too complex and expansive for any of you to understand so I won't give any sources whatsoever.
My reasoning is that I have a life, I waste time on here in short increments, but I'm not going to write multiple books worth of information for your benefit, if you'd like to watch the documentary that I endorsed and then talk about its specifics then I'd be all for that.
This topic is so broad in scope, what was done in this thread is really the worst way to go about discussing it. Analyzing small puzzle pieces in an isolated way.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:52 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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Well, I mean, I have given sources in this thread, many.
If you have, I missed it. And I could have.
That said, it still stands that you avoid specific claims so that your points cannot be rebutted. It's one of the hallmarks of your debate technique. And when called upon it, you usually retreat to the position that it's a tangential issue and that if anyone really understood the real issues at hand they wouldn't be arguing over such an insignificant point.
It's a rote debate mechanism for you at this point.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:55 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Asking for significant sources=deep ignorance
Like I said, this is a frickin' case study, man.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:59 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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This is exactly why I sense a combination of aggression, hate, obsession, and fear from your posts.
You're clearly on a witch hunt, you're loving how vulnerable I am right now because of how some of our conversations in the past have gone.
This is by far the weirdest language you've used in any thread. Your supposition of my intentions for pointing out your clear failures in not only logic but introspection are breathtaking.
This is no witch hunt, I'm simply pointing out that you have made some unfathomably (until now) stupid arguments and continue to make them out of fear of being wrong.
Your neurosis would give the abyss chills.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 7:02 pm to the808bass
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That said, it still stands that you avoid specific claims so that your points cannot be rebutted. It's one of the hallmarks of your debate technique. And when called upon it, you usually retreat to the position that it's a tangential issue and that if anyone really understood the real issues at hand they wouldn't be arguing over such an insignificant point.
I challenge you to invert a lot of what's been said.
Imagine for a second that it was commonly understood that 911 was an inside job and I was arguing against that belief.
If videos were shared of firefighters saying there was molten metal, like lava, in ground zero and I tried to say that they must have been mistaken, or that they're lying, or that they can't be trusted I would be laughed at.
If videos were shared of people in the building at the time of the attack saying that an initial explosion came from the basement level before the impact of the plane and I tried to say that they don't know what they're talking about, I'd be laughed at.
If I was asked to show how the towers fell because of fire despite no steel high rise ever collapsing due to fire and I shared data showing that steel loses integrity under high heat, I'd be laughed at and told to show how that proves that a building which was intricately designed to withstand multiple impacts and intense fire collapsed to to high heat.
This post was edited on 6/27/14 at 7:04 pm
Posted on 6/27/14 at 7:02 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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Well, I mean, I have given sources in this thread, many.
No you haven't, I just went back through the thread and checked. The links you've posted have been videos of questionable quality, and only 4 or 5 of those at that.
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