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Posted on 5/22/18 at 10:04 pm to navynuke
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Since you weren't specific in your first statement, I assumed you were talking about the HR Plassmeyer gave up in the 8th vs UT to the #8 hitter that was hitting .171 for the season.
It's cool. I figured out we were talking about different games.
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In each inning of the games I have mentioned, the leadoff batter was LH. Since you clarified that you were talking about the SC game, what RHP do you want out of the pen to face the best LH hitter in SC's lineup in the bottom of the 9th of a 0-0 game? Toelken threw 45 pitches on Friday in the win. Ball wasn't getting the rock until they had a lead in that game.
I think you're missing the point. No. I'm not thrilled with a lot of the options. But you don't bring a guy out who has already thrown 112 pitches. Toelken probably wasn't an option but I still would have rather seen him. Beyond that, Ball, Gubelman, Pferrer, Lopez, Ash all had less than an inning all weekend. MDO didn't pitch at all. Sharp threw the Indiana State game but frankly I would have thrown him and figured the OOC game out later. Bedell, Dulle and Anderson were options though not as preferable. At the end of the day, I don't care if the batter was a lefty, righty or hit upside down and I don't care if your pitcher was a righty, lefty or pitched with his feet....LaPlante threw a helluva game and deserved better in that instance. He threw 112 pitches.
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You mention Pferrer but he has done his best work OOC and mid week. You aren't bringing in a guy how has allowed 5 hits in 4 innings of conference work to face Cortes.
You're cherry picking your stats. He also hadn't given up a run despite facing MSU, Vandy and UGA.
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MDO has allowed 23 hits, issued 20 Walks, and allowed 16 runs in 27 innings of SEC ball. You aren't giving him the ball either.
Again, cherry picking your stats. Also has the lowest batting average against on the team.
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Of the relievers that have thrown primary innings out of the pen in SEC play, Ball is the only one with a BAA allowed below .250.
And Ash (.231) MDO (.232) Ball (.244) Slightly higher is Pferrer at .273.
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One full recruiting class isn't with 11.7 scholarships to distribute is nowhere near enough time to address the talent differential between the top 1/3 of this conference and what TJ left for him.
Now your changing the issue. Like I said. I'd agree. Bieser has done a good job and I still think it was a good hire.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 10:08 pm to navynuke
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The team hit .224 with 282 SOs during conference play. Samples, Bond, Brumfield, and Hanna were huge holes in the lineup vs SEC pitching. Beiser definitely has his work cut out for him.
Agreed.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 10:14 pm to reedus23
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At the end of the day, I don't care if the batter was a lefty, righty or hit upside down and I don't care if your pitcher was a righty, lefty or pitched with his feet
Situational baseball doesn't matter...got it.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 10:43 pm to navynuke
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Situational baseball doesn't matter...got it.
So what if it had been 122 pitches? Still bring LaPlante out? 142? 162? 202 as long as he's pitching strong? My son's team once put out a lineup of all left handed hitters. I take it from your "situational baseball" comment that you only throw lefties if you're the opposing coach and if you don't have any lefties you just forfeit? And if you say you don't forfeit the game, you just throw a righty then I'd say you should pass that wisdom on to Bieser. Sometimes the "situations" just aren't ideal and you have to put the players in the best position to win. Righty or Lefty out of the pen puts you in that position more than bringing a guy out who had already thrown 112 pitches.
I like some of the stuff you bring when it comes to stats but sometimes you should just leave it at that.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 10:51 pm to reedus23
I’m watching the game right now. No score in 2nd inning. And it’s 10:50 at night. So I guess a rain delay pushed back the start times of all the games today?
Posted on 5/22/18 at 10:53 pm to reedus23
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So what if it had been 122 pitches? Still bring LaPlante out? 142? 162? 202 as long as he's pitching strong?
Now you are just being stupid.
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I take it from your "situational baseball" comment that you only throw lefties if you're the opposing coach and if you don't have any lefties you just forfeit? And if you say you don't forfeit the game
Now you just doubled down.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 11:27 pm to navynuke
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Now you are just being stupid.
Yes it is. I'll take it you just leave him in regardless of pitch count.
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Now you just doubled down.
So you'd agree that you can't always have your ideal match up?
We can agree to disagree about whether 112 pitches was enough. You may be right. I just wouldn't have done it.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 11:49 pm to reedus23
@112 pitches primarily throwing sliders and changeups, I'm giving him the shot vs Cortes. Cortes was 0-3 at that point and hadn't looked comfortable in any AB.
This post was edited on 5/22/18 at 11:50 pm
Posted on 5/23/18 at 12:30 am to navynuke
2-1 good guys in 7th inning. Sikemma ran into trouble in the 5th, but bullpen did a marvelous job to limit the damage.
Posted on 5/23/18 at 6:21 pm to navynuke
OMG. Do you know how much work that is?
Posted on 5/24/18 at 4:58 pm to navynuke
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@112 pitches primarily throwing sliders and changeups, I'm giving him the shot vs Cortes. Cortes was 0-3 at that point and hadn't looked comfortable in any AB.
That's cool. And that is just where our differences lie.
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