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re: The Curious Case of Drew Lock
Posted on 8/28/15 at 11:52 am to 5thTiger
Posted on 8/28/15 at 11:52 am to 5thTiger
Quote accurately from now on, kay. Thanks.
He'll start next year.
People are saying he may play some this year because he's clearly going to be the next starting quarterback, and there is zero chance he's here for 5 years, so why even bother with the RS. That's what people are saying. Not that he's going to be the number one guy next Saturday.
Again -- as always, people go for one or the other end of the spectrum. A full cycle of thinking is just too much to handle.
He'll start next year.
People are saying he may play some this year because he's clearly going to be the next starting quarterback, and there is zero chance he's here for 5 years, so why even bother with the RS. That's what people are saying. Not that he's going to be the number one guy next Saturday.
Again -- as always, people go for one or the other end of the spectrum. A full cycle of thinking is just too much to handle.
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Posted on 8/28/15 at 11:53 am to Sleeping Tiger
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It's amazing that some of you are capable of feeding and clothing yourselves.
First of all, I'm only stating my opinion based upon factual precedence. If Lock wins the starting job, that's good for Lock and good for all of Mizzou fans because that would be a step up over Mauk's inconsistency.
Secondly, your "100% certainty" comment about something that will happen one year into the future, is just your opinion/guess. I seriously doubt that you are clairvoyant.
Lastly, and most importantly, save your unnecessary insults for the trolls of other teams.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 11:59 am to Sleeping Tiger
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Quote accurately from now on, kay. Thanks.
I added to your quote to make it more accurate.
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there is zero chance he's here for 5 years, so why even bother with the RS
I'd say there is a decent chance.
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People are saying
This is what I am concerned with. "people". Not coaches. Not the depth chart. Not conventional wisdom.
"People" like bloggers, who want clicks.
"Sources" is one of the most abused phrases by bloggers and writers today. Especially when they write things like this. "Now, more than ever, we here at the blog are convinced that Drew Lock is playing this season.We base that on nothing more than what our eyes have seen during these three scrimmages."
Let's all just calm down and see what Monday brings.
This post was edited on 8/28/15 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 8/28/15 at 12:14 pm to 5thTiger
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but there are very few true freshman who make the jump strait into actual competition. Certainly not those who don't enroll early.
Power 5 Schools that have started true freshmen QB's in the last 5 years.
Ohio State, Baylor, USC, UCLA, Cal, Louisville, A&M, Penn State, Maryland, FSU, LSU, Miami, Michigan among others.
Pretty impressive list. Talent should always prevail. If your going to recruit top talent, you can't be afraid to play them. Sitting on the bench 1-2 years won't soften the blow of 1st season competition. Footwork, delivery and poise are things a coach can feel confident will carryover to game days. Preparation and game experience will round out his playing potential. If Lock has it then start him, if not start Mauk. Didn't Mauk surpass Berksetter, even though Berksetter's problems could be attributed to poor OL play due to injuries?
This post was edited on 8/28/15 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 8/28/15 at 12:19 pm to surgicalvenom
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Power 5 Schools that have started true freshmen in the last 5 years
No doubt, true freshman play almost every year, just not at quarterback.
Brad Kaaya did at Miami last year, Josh Rosen will at UCLA this year, Hackenberg did at Penn State 2 years ago. There are obviously exceptions to the rule. But generally, QB's don't.
This post was edited on 8/28/15 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 8/28/15 at 12:32 pm to 50CalMG
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First of all, I'm only stating my opinion based upon factual precedence.
Actually all the info, stats, and 'factual precedence' we're receiving points in the direction of Lock being the starter in 2016.
You said as long as Mauk is still breathing he'll be the starter next year.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 12:37 pm to 5thTiger
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I added to your quote to make it more accurate.
At a loss for words. Only on the internet..
Maybe you could add something to that comment to make it more accurate.
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there is zero chance he's here for 5 years, so why even bother with the RS
I'd say there is a decent chance.
There's a decent chance Lock is here for 5 years?
Umm.. So they let you post from the nuthouse?
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This is what I am concerned with. "people". Not coaches. Not the depth chart. Not conventional wisdom.
Well.. actually, yes, it is coaches.
If you read, or in your case listen to the audio of Pinkels interview it's telling. Obviously Lock is being considered for the back-up roll. It's clear. And 'people' with ties to the program are hearing the same thing.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 1:02 pm to Sleeping Tiger
You need to cool it, brother. Going off on a fellow Tiger is uncalled for. Save it for UT or Arky lol 
Posted on 8/28/15 at 1:10 pm to Kamikaze25
Posted on 8/28/15 at 1:15 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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Sleeping Tiger
You might want to look up the term "precedence".
Daniel didn't replace Smith until Smith was gone.
Gabbert didn't replace Daniel until Daniel was gone.
Franklin didn't replace Gabbert until Gabbert was gone.
Mauk didn't replace Franklin until Franklin was gone.
(the only deviation from this list was Mauk overtaking Berkstresser, but Berkstresser was a starter for only a few games because Franklin was injured)
Lock could supplant Mauk in 2016, maybe even in 2015, but it is highly unlikely given Pinkel's history (i.e. precedence)
Posted on 8/28/15 at 1:30 pm to Kamikaze25
If someone thinks theres a good chance Lock will be here for 5 years, they deserve anything that comes their way.
And this isn't going off.
It's just words. Being written. In a calm manner.
And this isn't going off.
It's just words. Being written. In a calm manner.
This post was edited on 8/28/15 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 8/28/15 at 1:30 pm to 50CalMG
Doubt he starts...teaming him up with a young inexperienced WR core...not a good idea.... but he may be the only option.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 1:34 pm to 50CalMG
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Daniel didn't replace Smith until Smith was gone.
Gabbert didn't replace Daniel until Daniel was gone.
Franklin didn't replace Gabbert until Gabbert was gone.
Mauk didn't replace Franklin until Franklin was gone.
(the only deviation from this list was Mauk overtaking Berkstresser, but Berkstresser was a starter for only a few games because Franklin was injured)
Lock could supplant Mauk in 2016, maybe even in 2015, but it is highly unlikely given Pinkel's history (i.e. precedence)
Yeah, I mean, I'd probably put more stock in what's happened historically than what's happening in front of everyone's eyes -- Lock outplaying the competition -- if I was like you, inhibited from secondary thought.
There's a story to each of those qb's you mentioned. In every case it makes sense the way it happened.
Mauk isn't Smith, Daniel, or Gabbert.
This post was edited on 8/28/15 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 8/28/15 at 1:37 pm to 50CalMG
"Pinkel has never moved an underclassman QB over a returning starter QB"
Kirk Farmer says hi
Kirk Farmer says hi
This post was edited on 8/28/15 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 8/28/15 at 1:45 pm to 5thTiger
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No doubt, true freshman play almost every year, just not at quarterback.
he prob wont be the starter barring injury but thinking he wont get some series this year like pinkel has always done with the heir at qb is not a ridiculous thought.
im with others in that if the staff doesnt think the kid will be here 5 years no need for the rs.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 1:51 pm to 50CalMG
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Gabbert didn't replace Daniel until Daniel was gone.
gabbert also didnt red shirt either. i dont expect them to red shirt lock if the staff thinks he has the chops and wont play a full college career.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 1:56 pm to Sleeping Tiger
I know I am tired of cringing every time I see Mauk step back to pass, or ever worse pirouette 5-10 yards in the wrong direction before chucking up a hail mary into double coverage. I miss the days of optimism when I saw Chase Daniel deliver bullet after bullet.
If Lock is clearly better than Mauk, then I certainly hope Pinkel plays Lock. But, Pinkel can be stubborn as hell.
I'm sure Pinkel will be consulting with Sleeping Tiger on all personnel moves. And for that I am grateful.
If Lock is clearly better than Mauk, then I certainly hope Pinkel plays Lock. But, Pinkel can be stubborn as hell.
I'm sure Pinkel will be consulting with Sleeping Tiger on all personnel moves. And for that I am grateful.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 1:57 pm to kilo
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gabbert also didnt red shirt either
Gabbert's freshman year was Daniel's Senior. The 4/1 series has been with a senior and a freshman. Didn't happen last season.
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i dont expect them to red shirt lock if the staff thinks he has the chops and wont play a full college career
I don't think you can reasonably expect someone to leave early before they play their first game. Obviously that is an option, but less than 5 QB's per class go early to the draft.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 2:08 pm to 5thTiger
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I don't think you can reasonably expect someone to leave early before they play their first game. Obviously that is an option, but less than 5 QB's per class go early to the draft.
I understand that. There is s reason for this rumors and sources. Gabe doesnt just throw shite at the wall at PM. If there is serious talk about not throwing a RS on Lock coming from him then I believe him and thats coming from his sources inside the program. Whether it happens for sure, dont know but you saying no chance is as moronic as you calling sleepy out for saying the exact opposite.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 2:19 pm to kilo
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Gabe doesnt just throw shite at the wall at PM. If there is serious talk about not throwing a RS on Lock coming from him then I believe him and thats coming from his sources inside the program. Whether it happens for sure, dont know but you saying no chance is as moronic as you calling sleepy out for saying the exact opposite.
Anyone here have a PM account? The only place I have seen mentioning it is Rock M which got it from Morrison's piece.
I don't have a PM account, but I haven't seen Gabe print anything about it.
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