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re: Struggling against NC Central

Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:09 pm to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127158 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:09 pm to
quote:

Despite the struggles I think we're moving more in that direction than further in the hole.

I can say with 100% confidence that this is incorrect.
Posted by JAGsports
Union Star
Member since Dec 2015
948 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:11 pm to
I clearly think it's Troll JAG day. I've Been KA biggest supporter but now I'm the biggest hater and y'all are his biggest supporters
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127158 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:13 pm to
I'm not supporting him at all.
He's awful.
He's been awful.
He will be awful.

Firing him now changes absolutely nothing versus firing him after our last game of the season.
Posted by ZackAttackTiger
Kansas City
Member since Dec 2014
381 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:17 pm to
quote:

quote:
Sampson at Houston


Still do not want.



Sampson would be a disaster hire. With the NCAA already sniffing around they would just set up an office in Columbia if we hired him. No thanks!
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:17 pm to
That's fine. I could definitely be wrong. I don't invest much time in following basketball.

From the outer ring it just seems that at least we've brought in higher quality people to represent the program.

Realistically we shouldn't have expected to land high level talent over this problematic period -- at least decent people were brought in. When I say a clean foundation, that's mostly what I'm talking about.

I don't know anything about basketball other than how to play h-o-r-s-e, but it seems like we're gonna live or die with outside shooting -- balls aren't gonna drop every night and we don't have alternative ways of winning, tonight was that kind of night.

You fire KA now and you take away the 'father figure' who brought in each of these kids and you risk things spinning out of control again. I'm not opposed to moving on after the year if there isn't improvement, but there is a significant reason to have him run the show till the end of the year.

My uneducated bet is we steal some games in conference play and show signs of improvement -- which may not be enough, but at least the next guys job should be easier, which was the realistic goal all along.
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 11:06 pm
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:17 pm to
I don't think Mizzou is as far away as you think. Phillips, Hughes, Puryear, Walton, Smith, Nikko, Jackson could be a solid nucleus if the next coach can bring in a couple talent upgrades.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127158 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:23 pm to
Given our current coaching, the talent level is not high enough to overcome it.

I'm not sold on Jackson or Smith or Nikko.

Phillips could be really special the next two years. Walton is a little enigmatic, but has some talent. Puryear is a good piece of the puzzle. But he shouldn't be the leading scorer at a P5 school. Hughes makes me question if he can be consistent. And not because of his performance. Because of his mechanics.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:25 pm to
quote:

I don't think Mizzou is as far away as you think. Phillips, Hughes, Puryear, Walton, Smith, Nikko, Jackson just lost to NC Central.


FIFY
Posted by JAGsports
Union Star
Member since Dec 2015
948 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:28 pm to
I'm glad we have CVL. He played 35 min and was 1-11 from the field
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:33 pm to
Yea they clearly need a couple of guys added to them and a couple years of development. Add a scoring wing and post that can get points in the paint, the rebuild doesn't have to be that long.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127158 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:39 pm to
I agree with that.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:52 pm to
quote:

Yea they clearly need a couple of guys added to them and a couple years of development. Add a scoring wing and post that can get points in the paint, the rebuild doesn't have to be that long.



I hear ya. I am just shaking my head in disbelief. I'd say a couple of guys, couple years of development AND the right coaching and the rebuild doesn't have to be that long.

Truthfully, rebuilding should be shorter in basketball than any other sport. One or 2 key targets can change an entire team under the right coach.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:55 pm to
Yea I just don't want anyone thinking that it has to be a 4-5 yet process.
Keep this core together, develop them and add a couple grad transfers. Could make some noise next year.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127158 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:36 pm to
That's a little too optimistic. But two years and we could be competitive and in the top half of the SEC with the right coach.
Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
13771 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 12:09 am to
Doesn't make any sense to fire him now. Middle of the conference schedule sounds about right. I hope Sterk is working on a plan. I wonder if we could get Jacobson?
Posted by Zou brownmajic
Member since Sep 2013
3472 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 12:56 am to

Can you stomach this?

LINK
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 12:57 am
Posted by SemperFi
St Louis
Member since Nov 2015
1587 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 6:53 am to
Absolutely pathetic.


Also, I disagree about firing KA now. Fire his arse

It sure as hell would be a huge boost to the supporters and donors, of MU, knowing change is coming.

This shite show has to end, and soon.
Posted by sofa
CoMo
Member since Nov 2013
631 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:20 am to
Referring to the assertion that the AD who we just hired should be fired this morning if he doesn't fire the basketball coach.

But if ranting based on nothing more than your misinterpretation of what I posted gets you off, have at it.
Posted by sofa
CoMo
Member since Nov 2013
631 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:22 am to
I didn't. Your assertion that the recently hired AD should be fired is reactionary at best and lead paint chip eating stupid at worst.
Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
13771 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:50 pm to
No, but it's about a plan. Just fire him is not a plan.


but it looks like he needs to go
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