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re: Should Mizzou Football be concerned about the future post Drew Lock, TBJ, and others?
Posted on 9/28/18 at 4:47 pm to Mizz-SEC
Posted on 9/28/18 at 4:47 pm to Mizz-SEC
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Thus far Odom has done neither.
I take it you didn’t watch Lock in 2015. Carta-Samuels, Huepel, Dooley have done a great job developing Lock.
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Posted on 9/28/18 at 6:18 pm to Mizz-SEC
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He always recruited QBs well and developed them well.
Thus far Odom has done neither.
Nah, that’s bullshite. Lock was garbage in ‘15. Odom gets at least some credit for his development if we are being fair here.
Also, we have no idea what kind of QBs he has recruited because they haven’t gotten to play. Personally I think Wilson is super talented and will be a stud. Just hope it’s here.
Posted on 9/28/18 at 6:35 pm to wubilli
Oh please Lock shouldn't have played in 15.
Odom has had 3 years to find his replacement and he is where?
Odom has had 3 years to find his replacement and he is where?
Posted on 9/28/18 at 7:36 pm to JesusQuintana
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Nah, that’s bullshite. Lock was garbage in ‘15. Odom gets at least some credit for his development if we are being fair here.
OK. I'll give Odom credit for developing Lock. Pinkel recruited him and was developing him too before Mauk went off the rails.
Will you give Pinkel credit for knowing his buisness when it comes to quarterbacks? The only time I can recall Pinkel getting caught without a quality heir apparent in the pipeline was when he had to start Corbin Berkstresser.
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Also, we have no idea what kind of QBs he has recruited because they haven’t gotten to play.
I think this is another area where Odom has missed the mark.
Pinkel's idea of grooming the heir apparent with a series a half (or game) was brilliant. Not only grooming the successor with meaningful, pressure-filled game snaps, but providing a change of pace for opposing defenses. It can also build a fire under the incumbent.
Odom should be doing similarly (especially if Wilson has the tools), yet isn't. Big mistake IMO.
Posted on 9/28/18 at 8:50 pm to deputyfife
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I think we will be a team that averages 9 wins
Posted on 9/28/18 at 9:27 pm to Mizz-SEC
You could also add the year that Suh broke Gabbert in half as a year Pinkel didn’t have a quality replacement. Gabbert was playing on 1 leg with a walkon as his backup.
Until a QB that’s not Lock plays real snaps there’s no way to know if Odom has recruited a replacement. There are 4 scholarship QB that will return next season. Maybe 1 of them is good or will be developed into a good QB. Bazelak is a high 3 star QB and might be good. Or we might see a grad transfer QB.
Until a QB that’s not Lock plays real snaps there’s no way to know if Odom has recruited a replacement. There are 4 scholarship QB that will return next season. Maybe 1 of them is good or will be developed into a good QB. Bazelak is a high 3 star QB and might be good. Or we might see a grad transfer QB.
Posted on 9/28/18 at 11:00 pm to wubilli
Posted on 9/29/18 at 4:59 am to wubilli
Do you think Odom should be playing Wilson a series a game or half if he has the tools?
Posted on 9/29/18 at 7:44 am to Mizz-SEC
I’m not even sure that Wilson is the top backup. So far it looks like that would be Powell.
Posted on 9/29/18 at 10:48 am to Mizz-SEC
I would like to see what Wilson can do. Kid has some serious wheels on him.
Posted on 9/29/18 at 3:23 pm to Mizzou4ever
From the very little I have seen from the backups I think Powell is the better QB. Wilson Hs the athleticism, Powell the arm talent.
Posted on 9/29/18 at 3:52 pm to wubilli
I'll repharase Alex... Did you like/agree with how Pinkel groomed the heir apparent QB? Secondarily, would you currently be giving the deemed No. 2 QB a series a game/half ala Pinkel?
Posted on 9/29/18 at 4:55 pm to wubilli
If both get a fair shot, and I suspect they will, Wilson will prove the superior player.
Posted on 9/29/18 at 11:31 pm to Mizz-SEC
I don’t know that a series or 2 per game really helps develop a QB better. I would like to see the data on it. Pinkel did it and it worked well for him, but most coaches don’t go that route.
Posted on 9/30/18 at 3:06 am to wubilli
Lock said that Powell was the smartest qb on the team including himself.
Posted on 9/30/18 at 9:18 am to Mizz-SEC
5-9 plays in a game half of which are running plays, is insignificant in a QBs development. Getting 50-60 reps/day with the #1s during the spring, summer workouts, and preseason camp is where a QB is made.
This post was edited on 9/30/18 at 9:20 am
Posted on 9/30/18 at 9:54 am to Zou brownmajic
That’s what I’m getting at. I’m sure Powell is great in the meeting room, on the practice field etc. Coaches routinely fall for this fool’s gold.
Physically, he’s not close to Wilson.
I’d assume we’ll go through fall camp with no starter being named and both will play extensively vs Wyoming.
Physically, he’s not close to Wilson.
I’d assume we’ll go through fall camp with no starter being named and both will play extensively vs Wyoming.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 5:03 pm to TigerTalker16
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Barry Odom is entering his 4th recruiting cycle, let's look at how his classes stack up to the rest of the conference.
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2016 13th out of 14 teams (43rd overall)
2017 13th out of 14 teams (43rd overall)
2018 13th out of 14 teams (43rd overall)
2019 currently 14th out of 14 teams (52nd overall)
If Kentucky Football beats Mizzou again this season, it will be the 4th time in a row Kentucky has beaten Mizzou and recruited a higher rated class the following year.
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When James Franklin left everyone knew the next guy was for sure Maty Mauk.
When Maty Mauk left, everyone knew for sure the guy was Drew Lock.
When Drew Lock leaves, who's that guy you can say for sure is the guy?
This program seems to have no direction post Pinkel.
You need to get off of the negative attitude towards Missouri and the head coach. I see Barry Odom will be going bowling and get Missouri to keep going bowling and making slow progress to sustain around 8 wins a year. To me that is very good and Barry had to go through all of the negative that hurt Missouri for a while. Also fans of Missouri were wanted Barry Odom fired a year ago. He did not get a chance to make the adjustments and coaching changes and with all that negative stuff going on at that time as well. I am not surprise Barry Odom was able to handled all that negative and come out winning and making Missouri football good again. Not yet great but is making progress. The fans is what killing Missouri chance to succeed. Fans are like that of the Nebraska players. They do not care for Barry Odom and wanted him fired and hire a splashy coach. The attitude among Missouri fans is what killing the football program. Got to fix that and go to the game! That makes a huge difference getting better recruits and give Missouri a chance to win games.
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