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Rock M's all decade Offense and Defense
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:14 am
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:14 am
Offense
No list is ever going to suit everyone but I would take Sasser over Moe. Sasser was the only reason Mauk completed more than 50% of his throws in 2014 and was a coach's selection for All SEC. He also blocked his position better than any WR not named Marcus Lucas or Wes Kemp.
Defense
Hard to argue any of these selections. I do think Ealy's conference production was undervalued. Facing the starting LTs on every SEC team he led the league in TFLs during conference play, tied for 4th in sacks, and tied for second in fumbles forced. He and Marcus Golden were arguably the best pair DEs on the team during SEC play in 2013.
No list is ever going to suit everyone but I would take Sasser over Moe. Sasser was the only reason Mauk completed more than 50% of his throws in 2014 and was a coach's selection for All SEC. He also blocked his position better than any WR not named Marcus Lucas or Wes Kemp.
Defense
Hard to argue any of these selections. I do think Ealy's conference production was undervalued. Facing the starting LTs on every SEC team he led the league in TFLs during conference play, tied for 4th in sacks, and tied for second in fumbles forced. He and Marcus Golden were arguably the best pair DEs on the team during SEC play in 2013.
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Posted on 1/1/20 at 10:09 am to navynuke
J'Mon Moore is questionable even though his stats don't say it.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 10:24 am to blueprint_one
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J'Mon Moore is questionable
I disagree. He blocked his position well and could take the top off a defense. Why else would an NFL franchise spend a pick on him? If all you look at are the drops, you are missing what he meant to the entire scheme of the offense.
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Posted on 1/1/20 at 10:59 am to navynuke
Maybe so on Moore but were it not for Lock he wouldn't be on this list.
I'd take DGB and Bud Sasser over him all day long.
Am I bitter about his role in 2015? Damn straight.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 11:28 am to Mizz-SEC
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Maybe so on Moore but were it not for Lock he wouldn't be on this list
That cuts both ways.
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I'd take DGB
I wouldn't. DGB was lazy unless he was the first read and his hands were as questionable as Moore's.
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Bud Sasser
Sasser is one of my program favorites. He had strong hands and was as of a smart player MU has had at the position. He just lacked the twitch and long speed to be a consistent deep threat. Ideally, he would have been a slot WR but MU didn't have anyone else to be the #1 guy outside.
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Am I bitter about his role in 2015? Damn straight.
That's fine. It is entirely possible to remove that when judging his on the field product, though. He had some bad drops but was a highlight waiting to happen once he got a handle on it.
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Posted on 1/1/20 at 12:05 pm to navynuke
Packers dropped him pretty quick, Browns have him on the practice squad.
Navy - For his stats he deserves a spot but the drop rate was unacceptable. Also, he had an attitude and didn't play with that much passion. I hate making an argument for DGB but teams actually feared him.
Also, I'm not arguing about Sasser - he literally for a year was the ONLY guy making plays for the team.
WR2: J’Mon Moore, 2014-2017
One of the most underrated Mizzou players of the decade
I dunno about that statement either from the Rock M article.
Navy - For his stats he deserves a spot but the drop rate was unacceptable. Also, he had an attitude and didn't play with that much passion. I hate making an argument for DGB but teams actually feared him.
Also, I'm not arguing about Sasser - he literally for a year was the ONLY guy making plays for the team.
WR2: J’Mon Moore, 2014-2017
One of the most underrated Mizzou players of the decade
I dunno about that statement either from the Rock M article.
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Posted on 1/1/20 at 12:14 pm to blueprint_one
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Also, he had an attitude and didn't play with that much passion. I hate making an argument for DGB but teams actually feared him.
You are ignoring how defenses adjusted deep help and its effect on the underneath routes and the running game. Players with no passion don't run secondary routes or block the way he did when his teammates had the ball.
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Posted on 1/1/20 at 7:10 pm to navynuke
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I disagree. He blocked his position well and could take the top off a defense. Why else would an NFL franchise spend a pick on him? If all you look at are the drops, you are missing what he meant to the entire scheme of the offense.
Meh. I could leave Moore. Piss poor on-field attitude. He got cut in the NFL because his hands were still garbage.
2017: 499 SEC yards and 5 TDS on 34 REC. 160 of those against Arkys garbage arse program.
2016: 407 against Vandy, Arky, Tenner. 97 against LSU, SC, Big Blue, UF. 196 and a game ending fumble against UGA.
Dude disappeared a lot in big games.
I’m taking reliable Sasser all day any day.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 5:48 am to navynuke
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Marcus Golden
Easily the forgotten one when it comes to the NFL but will have the best career of all of them.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 9:14 am to Athos
Sasser had 9 yds vs UF, 14 yds vs UGA, and 31 yds vs BAMA.
Washington caught one ball vs SC and 3 in the SECCG vs Auburn.
DGB caught one ball vs SC, 2 vs Vanderbilt, 2 balls vs OM, and 2 vs Tennessee. 4 of his 8 TDs during SEC play were in one game vs Kentucky.
It took Mason getting booted before Hall could get on the field and his drop rate was comparable to Moore's. He couldn't stay healthy in 2018.
You can pick apart every player's season. That's why they are judged on the entire body of work. Moore led the SEC in receiving as a Jr (#1 in SEC play) and finished 2nd as a Sr (5th in SEC play). He commanded deep help every game. The games where he "disappeared" due to over the top help, another WR/TE was singled up and usually had big games. Moore pulling defenders away from the line also impacted the running game. His Jr and Sr years MU had 80+ long running plays. That #dropped to 65 the year after he left.
If we are looking all time for the program, he isn't making the starting line up but he is still in the top 10. He is 7th in receptions, 4th in yds, and 5th in receiving TDs.
You can't leave him off the list when looking at the last 10 years of Missouri Football.
Washington caught one ball vs SC and 3 in the SECCG vs Auburn.
DGB caught one ball vs SC, 2 vs Vanderbilt, 2 balls vs OM, and 2 vs Tennessee. 4 of his 8 TDs during SEC play were in one game vs Kentucky.
It took Mason getting booted before Hall could get on the field and his drop rate was comparable to Moore's. He couldn't stay healthy in 2018.
You can pick apart every player's season. That's why they are judged on the entire body of work. Moore led the SEC in receiving as a Jr (#1 in SEC play) and finished 2nd as a Sr (5th in SEC play). He commanded deep help every game. The games where he "disappeared" due to over the top help, another WR/TE was singled up and usually had big games. Moore pulling defenders away from the line also impacted the running game. His Jr and Sr years MU had 80+ long running plays. That #dropped to 65 the year after he left.
If we are looking all time for the program, he isn't making the starting line up but he is still in the top 10. He is 7th in receptions, 4th in yds, and 5th in receiving TDs.
You can't leave him off the list when looking at the last 10 years of Missouri Football.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 11:41 am to navynuke
We know why people do t want Moore on the all decade team, and it doesn’t have anything to do with his play.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:27 pm to wubilli
Then enlighten me
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