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Lock's comments re:Finley

Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:44 am
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:44 am
Have a listen. Maybe the QB of the team saying it will stick for some of you. Echoing what I've said

LINK
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111496 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:08 am to
Hot take. Player says coach did a great job.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:17 am to
LOL. So predictable.

You're right. A college QB has no idea about offense. "Throw deep!!!" dudes on a message board are more informed.

Listen to what he said, or don't. Just trying to help some of you guys out a bit.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111496 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:28 am to
When he says “He wished he could’ve started from the 40 but football isn’t like that?” Incredible and unarguable logic.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:32 am to
Yup, as in you severely limit the plays you can call when you are backed up to your own endzone.

[quote]“He definitely pinned us back and kind of took some of the possibility of taking deep shots away because you never want to drop into your own end zone,” Lock said. “... That guy, he was pretty special tonight.” Read more here: LINK ]

Throw deep!!!

But again, you know more than a college QB about play calling. Keep going, it's entertaining
Posted by MizzouTrue
Member since Jun 2016
3841 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:33 am to
Lock isn't going to call out one of his coaches. And he shouldn't.

Doesn't mean the play calling was okay. It was terrible. Finley has no business calling plays at Mizzou

But Lock isn't going to put the blame on someone else. He's too classy for that.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:40 am to
No, he understands the game too much to call out the OC

Let's try and get a little further along than plays are good if they work, and bad if they don't. Circumstance matters.
Posted by MizzouTrue
Member since Jun 2016
3841 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:50 am to
If you're fine with always hiring internally and going 3-9, go ahead and defend Finley

But if Mizzou wants to be a respectable program then we need to hire qualified coaches. Finley is a young guy who should be coaching tight ends.


Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:54 am to
That's stupid.

I'm absolutely fine with hiring Finley. He didn't fumble the ball or snap the ball out of the endzone. We gained almost 400 yards despite having be far the worst field position we had in any game this year.

Don't worry though. Odom is going to hire Fisch and we can talk about how bad he sucks soon enough.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111496 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:54 am to
quote:

Let's try and get a little further along than plays are good if they work, and bad if they don't.


Let’s also get a little further along than the coaches are good if we win and the players are bad if we lose.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:00 am to
I'll throw the inverse right back at you.

The game shifting mistakes that lost us this game are on the players (well, one was a poor call by the refs). If you refuse to acknowledge this then I can't help you.

Execution is on players. Execution lost this game. You know all of this though.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111496 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:03 am to
I thought our players played poorly.
I didn’t see anything from our coaches that made me say “Super job.”
Not sure if that means I’m in the 90% of fans who aren’t you.

Keep telling us we were prepared and focused. Keep telling us the coaching had zero to do with performance. And then come back and tell us how great Barry is when the players perform well against UT Martin next year. Your shite is predictable and stupid. I think you may actually talk yourself into believing you’re right.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:11 am to
I am right. I know this board desperately wants to be a "coaches suck!!" echo chamber and for most fans who have very little understanding of the game that's the easy way out and they take it.

I never said the coaches did a super job. We lost. What I did say was that the most influential, game changing plays were 100% player fault (except for the Acy call). That's correct. If you refuse to acknowledge that fine, but you are wrong.

I'm just going to work on the assumption that you agree that fumbles, bad snaps and poor calls are not the fault of coaches because you aren't stupid even if you insist on acting like it sometimes.

Now, name 1 play that was more influential in us losing the game than

Witter fumble

Albert O fumble

Castillo snap

Terrible call on Acy

If those plays don't happen do we win? If we win are we still talking about how stupid BO is or how bad Finley sucks?

Come on man. You know all of this stuff
Posted by Bluegrassboy
Kirksville, Mo.
Member since Jun 2017
726 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:23 am to
I thought the “non call” on what I would call obvious pass interference on Moore, where the DB had ahold of his helmet, pulling it backwards, as Moore was trying to catch a deep ball that was under thrown by Lock. Now, Moore probably drops it, as that’s what he does best, but a missed call nonetheless. That would have kept our drive going and we had good field position for a change.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 11:23 am to
Don't even have to click to pretty much understand what a player is going to say about his coach.

Finley may or may not be the best option at OC but last night did absolutely nothing to make me feel like he deserves the job.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 11:32 am to
quote:

Let's try and get a little further along than plays are good if they work, and bad if they don't. Circumstance matters.



Douche, everyone here understands that. You act like you have some divine knowledge about college football. While some plays come off the table when you're backed up, it doesn't mean they all are. And to be honest, going deep isn't completely taken off. It is still an option from time to time.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 12:27 pm to
Everyone? You sure?

Sure don't act like it.

If you don't want to click the link and listen to someone with actual knowledge, then by all means don't.

Teams are conservative when backed to their goal line. Why? They don't want to risk a TO down there and setup a short field for the other team. Everyone should know this, I agree. It's just puzzling why they bitch about when they know it's how things are handled.

It's just funny that if we hold onto the ball, we likely win with we'll over 500 yards of offense and Finley is the greatest thing since sliced bread, but that didn't happen. Instead we fumble on two plays that were first downs when we had momentum, snap the ball out of the back of the endzone on a drive where we could have tied the game and now Finley is a bum. All based on 3 plays he had absolutely no control over.

Tough gig huh?
Posted by Zou brownmajic
Member since Sep 2013
3470 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 12:42 pm to
If execution is on the players, isn't it on coaching to adjust to something that works better? If I keep running into a brick wall do I keep running into that brick wall?

We came out after half and did what we do and threw a long td pass and then went back to running into a brick wall. Remember that the head coach can always veto an offensive play and game plan when he wants.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

then went back to running into a brick wall

Ish hit the wal...RIII didn't
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 12:59 pm to
What field position did we have on that first drive after the half?

Hint, it wasn't inside our own 10.

There is nothing to veto. They did what they should have been doing. We don't make those fatal mistakes, we win. It's that simple.
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