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Posted on 11/8/16 at 9:47 am to
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
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Posted on 11/8/16 at 9:47 am to
Thats Heupals system. Remember early in the season when only wrs on one side of the field would actually run a route.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
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Posted on 11/8/16 at 10:20 am to
So Heupal only wants Lock to look at 1/2 the field even tho there are WRs on both sides?
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
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Posted on 11/8/16 at 10:51 am to
I believe it was the Eastern Michigan game when the commentators made reference to Heupals system being simplified and only required Lock to read half the field. By not having the opposite side wr run a route it actually kept a cb and safety on 1 side of the field and out of the play. Now things have progressed where both sides run a route, but I believe Lock is still only required to read half the field. I'm surprised that even if only reading one side, he doesn't at least try to look off the safeties.

Maybe it was actually the Georgia game.
This post was edited on 11/8/16 at 10:53 am
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 11/8/16 at 1:02 pm to
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I'm surprised that even if only reading one side, he doesn't at least try to look off the safeties.

Agree but if Lock only has to look at 1/2 the field that's just dicked up.
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
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Posted on 11/8/16 at 1:54 pm to
Lock had said that during his first year he was not taught how to read a defense and he was just playing by instinct. So maybe Heupal really simplified things in order to get Lock ready for the season. Never quite understood why Pinkel took Hill away from coaching the WR's and made him Lock's QB coach. As a top prospect Lock deserved an experienced QB coach.
Posted by navynuke
Member since Jun 2016
6517 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 6:40 pm to
LINK

Matter's notes from the Odom's press conference touched on passing scheme.

quote:

A lot of factors go into the passing game, Odom says. There are times some calls cut the field in half and limit Lock to throw to routes on one side. Lock had a couple different options on his first interception. The read he made didn't take him to the right spot. He had an open receiver to the left but threw to the right.


Lock is still having issues with the defense pre snap. The TE's are being used more this year but he could move the chains on every passing attempt if he would come back to the middle of the field to the TE. The safeties drift to the boundary because of Lock's tendencies.
This post was edited on 11/8/16 at 10:42 pm
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 11/8/16 at 10:18 pm to
If there are receivers in route, they are in his progression.

The throws where he is required to read half the field include the opposite side receivers not running a route.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68474 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 6:15 am to
quote:

A lot of factors go into the passing game, Odom says. There are times some calls cut the field in half and limit Lock to throw to routes on one side

Thanks for this Navy but it wasn't "sometimes", it was every pass play from the 2nd quarter on (I didn't focus on it in the 1st quarter).
Posted by navynuke
Member since Jun 2016
6517 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 7:21 am to
I thought the fact that a RB didn't get a carry until a minute had expired in the 2nd Qtr was a bigger issue than the passing scheme.
Posted by navynuke
Member since Jun 2016
6517 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

Thanks for this Navy but it wasn't "sometimes", it was every pass play from the 2nd quarter on


Per a tweet from Matter

quote:

Missouri OC Josh Heupel cleared something up, saying there was only 1 play in Saturday's game where Drew Lock didn't have a full-field read
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
6595 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:12 pm to
So Lock is reading only half the field on his own? WTF?
Posted by Mizz-SEC
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 5:20 pm to

So our boy has tunnel vision and stares down his receivers. Not good.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33369 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 5:27 pm to
I mean, it's not that uncommon for QBs to lock onto a receiver. Especially if his pre snap read tells him the guy should be open.

Drew could certainly improve his progressions, but on that particular play Mason was open. He just made a shitty throw. Otherwise, he played fairly well.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68474 posts
Posted on 11/10/16 at 6:11 am to
quote:

So our boy has tunnel vision and stares down his receivers. Not good

There you go. Hopefully next year it gets better.
quote:

I mean, it's not that uncommon for QBs to lock onto a receiver.

There are 2 ways to lock onto a receiver; 1) by having your head AND eyes on him & 2) just your eyes (with your head "appearing" to look elsewhere). 1 is not good, 2 is much better.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
26772 posts
Posted on 11/10/16 at 9:57 am to
It could be worse. During the Houston Nutt years here at Arkansas we were particularly fond of mass protect packages where we would only have one or two receivers running routes and always on the same side of the field.

Thankfully for a few of those yeas our QB was Matt Jones and if that one receiver was covered he'd use his unearthly speed to run away from people. Our offense for almost four years was based around the power run or Jones desperately scrambling.
Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
13771 posts
Posted on 11/10/16 at 6:08 pm to
He didn't have a QB coach for all intents last year and this year it's Heupel. Dude should have gone to MI
Posted by navynuke
Member since Jun 2016
6517 posts
Posted on 11/10/16 at 9:32 pm to
Lock has been under the guidance of a decent QB coach for 8 months. I hope he decides to spend some time with a specialist over the summer to expedite his development pre snap.

The development of the upperclassmen and the youth at WR isn't doing Lock any favors either.

Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33369 posts
Posted on 11/10/16 at 10:28 pm to
Lol. Why do you keep hammering this Lock to MI thing?

Just seems like an odd narrative for a Mizzou fan to get locked into.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
26772 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 10:19 am to
quote:

Lock has been under the guidance of a decent QB coach for 8 months. I hope he decides to spend some time with a specialist over the summer to expedite his development pre snap.


Is it a developmental issue or has the rough seasons he's been through given him a case of the yips? I know Brandon Allen had a horrible case of them until Dan Enos finally got him straightened out.
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
6595 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 10:23 am to
OL is young, but Ellarbee has done a hell of a job with them. Can't blame the OL this year. They were criticized for their run blocking, but even that somehow got better when Crockett ran the ball.
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