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Posted on 11/7/12 at 12:09 am to MizzouSEC2012
Posted on 11/7/12 at 12:09 am to MizzouSEC2012
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oh shite I pissed in rebel gators cereal, all I said was that he shouldn't look down on poor people, and he seems satisfied on a survival of the fittest nation
RG plans to be an FBI agent, he's about as conservative as they come.
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Posted on 11/7/12 at 12:19 am to Bogie00
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That surprises me. If anything, I would think your philosophy is more the mindset of a "baby boomer."
I come from the church of Joe Pug, Bill Hicks, Graham Hancock, Scott Avett, Jim James, Henry Thoreau, Steinbeck, and Woody Guthrie. Not a ton of mid 20 year olds with my kind of blend. Its very frustrating to think the way I do, but I wouldn't go back to being blind for anything.
I feel like my parents were basically asleep the last 30 years. They wanted their white plastic suburban box as far away from the bad people as possible while they racked up the credit card and looked as much like the people in the magazines as possible. (Theres a lot more to my opinion than that, but... shouldn't go too far).
This post was edited on 11/7/12 at 12:23 am
Posted on 11/7/12 at 12:59 am to mograyback
Credit cards, should only be used to establish credit rating or for convenience, and absolutely paid in full each billing cycle.
Sadly, the only folks who should use credit cards, are the ones who don't need to borrow the money.
I recently read that only 10% of the adults in USA had savings of at least $500. Mind boggling, especially if they think social security will sustain them in the golden years.
Sadly, the only folks who should use credit cards, are the ones who don't need to borrow the money.
I recently read that only 10% of the adults in USA had savings of at least $500. Mind boggling, especially if they think social security will sustain them in the golden years.
Posted on 11/7/12 at 1:26 am to Bogie00
Yeah, I'm proud to say I've never had a credit card.
People have tried to explain to me that I need one to grow my credit, but I don't care. I should probably have one and just pay it in full each cycle but I'm stubborn on my principles.
10% being under $500, I really wonder what percentage is under something like $5,000... In the near future I don't think true retirement is going to be an option for anyone but the elite.
People have tried to explain to me that I need one to grow my credit, but I don't care. I should probably have one and just pay it in full each cycle but I'm stubborn on my principles.
10% being under $500, I really wonder what percentage is under something like $5,000... In the near future I don't think true retirement is going to be an option for anyone but the elite.
Posted on 11/7/12 at 5:34 am to kilo
Some of that money results from kids qualifying by performing meaningdul community services. My kid spent alot of hours as a teachers aide in a school for "challenged" kids. Down syndrome and the like. Kids that cannot attend regular public schools.
The other half of that is public loans. Instead of gaining funding from mainstream banks, its through the govt. Its still a loan. The Feds have cut alot of higher learning funding to the states which has required more lending of money through loans. So the "free" money for education has been slashed already by 5% or abouts.
The other half of that is public loans. Instead of gaining funding from mainstream banks, its through the govt. Its still a loan. The Feds have cut alot of higher learning funding to the states which has required more lending of money through loans. So the "free" money for education has been slashed already by 5% or abouts.
Posted on 11/7/12 at 6:32 am to kilo
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I guess I'm just in a group that thinks not everyone is entitled to a college education on the tax payers dime.
So then why stop with higher Ed.? Why sshould people have tax dollars go towards elementry - highs school ? What about people who have never had kids that still pay tax dollars towards these levels of education?
Entitlement goes two ways my friend. Why should it be that only higher income families send thier kids to college? I agree not everyone is cut out for college. But damn near everyone that goes to college has a portion of thier tution payed for by tax dollars.
Posted on 11/7/12 at 7:03 am to jafo
Well, we got our asses handed to us. 4 more years of tears...
Good thread peeps.
Good thread peeps.
Posted on 11/7/12 at 10:32 am to mizzoukills
There are colleges out there for everyone and yes, some are MUCh cheaper than others. No one is entitled to the same college education as someone else.
As for credit cards, I never leave a balance on my cards. My family charges everything. By doing this, we usually end up getting about $600-700 back each year from our credit card companies. That is free money back in our pockets.
As for credit cards, I never leave a balance on my cards. My family charges everything. By doing this, we usually end up getting about $600-700 back each year from our credit card companies. That is free money back in our pockets.
Posted on 11/7/12 at 11:25 am to notsince98
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There are colleges out there for everyone and yes, some are MUCh cheaper than others. No one is entitled to the same college education as someone else. As for credit cards, I never leave a balance on my cards. My family charges everything. By doing this, we usually end up getting about $600-700 back each year from our credit card companies. That is free money back in our pockets.
We do the same in our household, but I know we are part of a few small minority who utilize credit cards in this manner. Our life long practice has been to live below our means, rather than above our means.
Posted on 11/7/12 at 12:25 pm to mizzoukills
Bro, used to be 100% republican thru and thru and have been a member of Labor Unions all my life. There are far left and far right. I model myself as a moderate/conservative. I balance myself between my union ties and old conservative ways aka gun rights etc.
I've been where your at. I've viewed things the way you viewed them. I have learned not to take what the Glen Becks and Al Sharptons of the media feed me. I do however take things and most of the time research them to form my opinions.
I can say without a doubt, Spence would have damaged the labor force in this state much as they did in Wisconsin. In my position, I have to lean to the greater good of all working people in this state and country now more than ever. labor Unions set much of the standard by which none union jobs are paid. Crippling workers retirement is not the answer.
But as I said. I understand where you at. Everyone is entitled to thier opinion. It's what makes the world go around.
I've been where your at. I've viewed things the way you viewed them. I have learned not to take what the Glen Becks and Al Sharptons of the media feed me. I do however take things and most of the time research them to form my opinions.
I can say without a doubt, Spence would have damaged the labor force in this state much as they did in Wisconsin. In my position, I have to lean to the greater good of all working people in this state and country now more than ever. labor Unions set much of the standard by which none union jobs are paid. Crippling workers retirement is not the answer.
But as I said. I understand where you at. Everyone is entitled to thier opinion. It's what makes the world go around.
Posted on 11/7/12 at 12:27 pm to jafo
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So then why stop with higher Ed.? Why sshould people have tax dollars go towards elementry - highs school ? What about people who have never had kids that still pay tax dollars towards these levels of education?
Apples and Oranges. Tax money goes to funding state universities outside tuition as well so in order for your comparison to have weight high schools and elementary schools would have to charge tuition on top of tax funding.
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Entitlement goes two ways my friend. Why should it be that only higher income families send thier kids to college? I agree not everyone is cut out for college. But damn near everyone that goes to college has a portion of thier tution payed for by tax dollars.
Where does the entitlement end? That would be my question. Is it really the burden of the taxpayer, on top of the normal taxes that are paid to fund the University at the state level, to also pay for tuition for every person that wants to go to any college they choose?
Military service or civic duty requirements are reasonable avenues for gaining education benefits and repayment but are very rarely used to gain the resources required for tuition.
I have no issue with no interest student loans either. Im no against having grants etc. Im against every person feeling the are OWED a college education regardless of whether the tax payer has to foot the bill or not.
I'm really not sure how this isnt a reasonable view quite honestly. People have different paths through life and we are all not equal.
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Posted on 11/7/12 at 12:34 pm to kilo
Not everyone being equal is a hard concept for many to accept regardless of how true it is.
This country was founded on freedom. You have the freedom to succeed and the freedom to fail. For every step taken to protect someone from failing you take a step against someone succeeding. It seems like no one cares what made the USA special anymore.
This country was founded on freedom. You have the freedom to succeed and the freedom to fail. For every step taken to protect someone from failing you take a step against someone succeeding. It seems like no one cares what made the USA special anymore.
Posted on 11/7/12 at 2:35 pm to kilo
quote:-Thomas Jefferson- 1776
...We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, —.... .
Even Thomas Jefferson did not practice the literal meaning of his words. Regardless of one's interpretation, since he penned his famous creed, "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness," has somehow morphed into an expectation of entitlement where government attempts to "equalize" the masses, using tax payer dollars.
The Republic of the United States was never intended to practice "pure democracy," but this grand experiment is looking more and more like socialism, in my humble opinion.
Posted on 11/7/12 at 2:52 pm to jafo
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jafo
Jafo, I agree with you. Labor unions aren't all bad. The union my dad belonged to make sure he was paid a good, not great but good, wage, and as a result, I had wonderful insurance and my parents were able provide me with a car, a college education, and a trip to Europe when I was in college - among many, many other blessings.
There has to be an equalizer. It's sad but true that humans are a naturally greedy bunch. Business owners will pay no more than they have to in order to improve their bottom lines. On the other hand, you have people who have unreasonable expectations about what they are owed. As an example, I have a cousin who works for GM. When he gets "laid off", they hold his job for him so that, by seniority, he will be called back as soon as there is work for him. And while he's "laid off", he still keeps his benefits and draws 90% of his wages. Give me that deal any day! This was before the companies were restructured, it may not be that way now.
Unions protect people from unfair employment practices. They are not all bad. But they also need to be checked sometimes too.
And Bogie - don't you just wish you could have dinner with Thomas Jefferson? Get his thoughts on things today? I'd love to know how the founding fathers would feel about things. They set up a phenomenal framework with the Constitution - but I wonder what changes they would make if they could see what we have become. We are SO big now, and world-wide the standard of living has increased, so much has changed. I just think it would be fascinating.
Posted on 11/7/12 at 3:05 pm to Bogie00
Vonnegut always had a flair for the over the top humor but he had some interesting social commentary in many of his works. This is one of my favorites.
Harrison Bergeron
Harrison Bergeron
Posted on 11/7/12 at 3:34 pm to kilo
I'm God looking down at the USA and this is what I see...
Posted on 11/7/12 at 3:37 pm to mizzoukills
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I'm God looking down at the USA and this is what I see...
God loves Cheerios. It's in the bible.
Posted on 11/7/12 at 3:46 pm to SoCalMIZ
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God loves Cheerios. It's in the bible.
Posted on 11/7/12 at 3:49 pm to mizzoukills
I normally don't give two shites about who is president because I belive the entire system is corrupt. But, I certainly noticed the arse-whipping I took in the stock market today. 
Posted on 11/7/12 at 3:57 pm to 50CalMG
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But, I certainly noticed the arse-whipping I took in the stock market today.
There you go!
You realize you're part of the problem, right? You make money and therefore you are inherently evil.
Instead of investing your money, you should give it away so that someone else can have a shot.
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