re: Franklin Will Start vs. Florida

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Listen, I understand people were clamoring for him when we didnt really know how he would look. But at this point, just stop. Corbin will not be the answer. And honestly I think Mauk will probably pass him on the depth chart next year. If you are defending him because you know him personally then I understand. But if they put Franklin in when he was clearly hurt, over a healthy Berkstresser that should clearly tell you something. The coaches said there was almost absolutely no way James would play, yet he did. What does that tell you? Corbin will go out as an SEC Quarterback and he can hang his hat on that. But please stop acting like this should even be a comparison anymore.

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I'm not sure what you are trying to say but you did it rather poorly whatever it was. The coaches admitted before the game Franklin was cleared to play and he would likely see some PT. That was predetermined regardless of how Berkstresser did.

Corbin isn't the answer for an SEC title. Corbin is only the answer to possibly improve the offense to a point it can compete in the SEC. Franklin's arm strength can't make the throws vs SEC defense to keep drives alive. Franklin can't lead a sustained drive w/out making a costly mistake. It will always be feast or famine under Franklin and that kills the defense.

Corbin played well outside of 2 INTs on saturday and those were two terrible calls by Yost. The rest of the day, Berk was making throws on time to open WRs and moved well in the pocket when he had to.

Is he heads and shoulders above franklin? No. Does he have more upside? Yes. This offense needs to develop a run first mentality with playaction passing including more protection.

Franklin's experience should have put him on a completely different level than berkstresser. Right now, it isn't. Hopefully Franklin gets it together.

Franklin came in vs kentucky, a terrible D, and his first throw was right to a defender. How was that better than Berk?

I'm not sure if you know franklin personally, or what. If so, I can understand your irrational attachment to him. But, the fact is this offense has been putrid on 3rd down since Franklin took over as QB (not that it was great before), but that is absolutely not going to cut it in the SEC. When Berk plays, the offense gets much better on third downs.

Franklin needs to show some semblance of being a leader vs Florida regardless of outcome or it is time to cut the losses and move on. Mauk shouldn't play this year so that leaves Berk.

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Franklin can't lead a sustained drive w/out making a costly mistake. It will always be feast or famine under Franklin and that kills the defense.

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While I obviously disagree, where has Corbin EVER done this. I know about the fluke Touchdown against Vandy where he missed his intended receiver so badly that it went to Sasser. He scored a Touchdown against South Carolina's 3rd stringers so I guess you can give him that. And thats about it. I mean I guess you are going to see it how you want to but dont say it is feast or famine with James but its skill and consistency with a couple tough breaks with Corbin.

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Franklin needs to show some semblance of being a leader vs Florida regardless of outcome or it is time to cut the losses and move on. Mauk shouldn't play this year so that leaves Berk.

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........I am done.

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This is what is so bad. It should be an open and shut case that Franklin is this team's QB and it isn't.

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It is an open and shut case.

You might be the only one that didn't get the memo.

Kilo,

Can't agree with you on the Franklin issue. I don't think he's great in the SEC. Big 12 perhaps. Not the SEC.

Actually, he was meh in the Big 12, but finished out strongly against mediocre teams.

I'm ready for a complete change at QB. I'm not a Franklin fan. I'm not a Berks fan.

I'm ready for an overhaul. I believe that the answer to our QB success lies in another individual.

I'm chalking this season up as a loss and praying for an injury free season and new QB next year. I also know that this won't happen...

All Im saying is that Franklin is clearly the better option and is unquestionably the "starter" for this team. I never said he has been great.

Not sure how you are interpreting what Im saying honestly. Are you saying that Berkstresser is the better option? Thats why you disagree?

I do think its the easiest form of criticism though, going after the QB. This team has a lot of issues that affect the offense as whole and are interdependent. The QB1 position is just the easiest for fans to critique. Its like everyone in the fan base seems to forget the kid is injured, most likely came back from the surgery too soon and is playing behind a decimated O-line.

Franklin is a good QB. Not great but good. He will be the QB1 next year barring injuries.

meh

I think Kills is saying he's not a fan of either of them.

You're right about it being easy going after the QB. I wouldn't have guessed I'd be down on our WRs. We were/are so deep there.. never would have guessed Lucas would turn into mush. As bad as the o-lines been, and suspect QB play, the WRs haven't done much to help the situation, lots of drops.

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I think Kills is saying he's not a fan of either of them.

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Yea, I get that. You just can't judge either of them fairly based on this season IMO.

Berk is young and Franklin is not healthy.

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Franklin is a good QB. Not great but good. He will be the QB1 next year barring injuries.

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Wake me in 2014 then.

I think everyone has admitted Franklin is the better QB currently as we sit here today. I think the only argument is whether or not you believe Berk has more potential down the road and if so, do you take some lumps right now and get him snaps. Personally, I've seen enough of Berk to think he will likely be a career back up between Franklin and whoever comes after.

Franklin, James 13-21-0 131 1 29 1

That's against SELA.

A quick glance said Franklin had 3 sustained drives (arbitrarily chose 50 yds because its easy to look for) for TD and Berk has had 4. Admittedly Franklin has 4 if you give him credit for the 1 play 67 yard run by Lawrence. Combined, that's 1 drive of over 50 yards per game that results in a touchdown. Just not good enough. Either of them.

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Yea, it is a head scratching problem isnt it? I have been underwhelmed as well with the play of our WRs. Hard to remember seeing so many drops honestly.

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And what's hard to imagine is that the number one recruit in the entire country can't establish himself within that group.

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Yeah, I remember franklin crumbling and giving the game away to UGA. It was terrible how he fell apart. How could I forget?

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Sorry, he was crumbling because of a future NFL caliber LB on his backside that our O-line couldn't block in the 4th quarter. Remember that? It's difficult to complete passes when your running for your life. I do remember that.

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Franklin isn't going to beat good teams unless the defense and special teams do all the work.

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You could say the same thing about special teams play. If it was'nt for Franklins pass to DGB for what was it, 80 sum yrds for a TD against UCF, maybe they don't win that game. Same with the defense. If you don't have defense, you could stick Tom Brady back there and they still might loose if recievers don't catch balls. Last time I checked, it was a team sport.