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FBI arrests several college hoops coaches
Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:17 am
Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:17 am
We all knew it was a super dirty business. Perhaps it’s time to change the model for college hoops and football.
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:18 am to wubilli
What can you really do? Most these kids are poor as hell, money talks.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:24 am to TigerCruise
Pay them. Look at what MPJ is doing for Mizzou. Mizzou regularly had less than 4K fans at games the last couple of years. Now season tickets are expected to be sold out. He’s definitely more than what his scholarship is worth.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:25 am to TigerCruise
Exactly. The kids are dirt poor and schools can pay. Extra. On top of schollys.
The system is garbage but at the same time they get a free education at top universities so my player sympathy has limits .
The system is garbage but at the same time they get a free education at top universities so my player sympathy has limits .
Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:25 am to wubilli
So the richest schools get everyone. College sports would be over.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:28 am to TigerCruise
Pro sports have salary caps. Same could be done. Look at the commit Louisville got for 100K, it by not pay that kid the money up front legally?
The richest schools already get the best players so it wouldn’t change.
The richest schools already get the best players so it wouldn’t change.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:50 am to wubilli
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Now season tickets are expected to be sold out.
Season tickets are sold out.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 10:01 am to wubilli
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Pay them. Look at what MPJ is doing for Mizzou. Mizzou regularly had less than 4K fans at games the last couple of years. Now season tickets are expected to be sold out. He’s definitely more than what his scholarship is worth.
Terrible idea on so many levels. The goal should be to level the playing field, not make it worse.
Sports are about finding who is the better coach, who is the better player, who is the better talent evaluator....all this stuff leads to determining wins/losses ON THE FIELD/COURT. The NCAA (and pro sports too for that matter) should be doing MORE to restrict impact of everything else. Whoever has the most money is not how you decide who is best in sports. Sports are not about free market capitalism. I'd personally be fine if the NCAA mandated all head coaches and staff make relatively the same salary for every school. I'd like to see the NCAA impose restrictions on facilities to eliminate the arms race.
If you think colleges are making too much money, that is a simple fix. Stop allowing the colleges to profit off it. Make all revenues go to the NCAA and distribute to all schools evenly OR just remove the money completely.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 10:02 am to wubilli
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The richest schools already get the best players so it wouldn’t change.
That is the wrong attitude. It can be changed but you won't like it.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 10:26 am to notsince98
You are wrong if you don’t think sports isn’t a business. All these top players that are getting paid 100-150K to go to schools definitely are worth more than that to those schools.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 10:28 am to wubilli
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The richest schools already get the best players so it wouldn’t change.
Every year more and more top 100 recruits are going to non-traditional powerhouses or "p5" schools.
This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 10:29 am
Posted on 9/26/17 at 10:32 am to mizslu314
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Every year more and more top 100 recruits are going to non-traditional powerhouses or "p5" schools.
Adidas and Nike aren’t paying 100K for a player ranked between 50-100.
A salary cap would work just as well. Say for example a school had 500K to pay players. That would limit schools like Duke and Kentucky from getting all of the top players.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 10:38 am to wubilli
so, only kids that get to go to the big schools get paid?
the blue bloods would pay that 500k and not look back, mooooost schools cant do that, now they're left in the dust.
Schools without football, butler, Creighton, nova, they are very good programs. very good. they would literately be shite in the college bball world.
the blue bloods would pay that 500k and not look back, mooooost schools cant do that, now they're left in the dust.
Schools without football, butler, Creighton, nova, they are very good programs. very good. they would literately be shite in the college bball world.
This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 10:41 am
Posted on 9/26/17 at 10:39 am to wubilli
Then get rid of all the non rev sports?
How do you float them if you are paying out all your revenue to football and basketball players?
Paying players is just a terrible idea. It wouldn't stop any of this under the table stuff anyway. Programs that want to cheat will still cheat.
How do you float them if you are paying out all your revenue to football and basketball players?
Paying players is just a terrible idea. It wouldn't stop any of this under the table stuff anyway. Programs that want to cheat will still cheat.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 10:45 am to JesusQuintana
I understand the side of this where players should get paid, I really do. I know just how much they do for their school and this revenue.
With that being said, there is no way of making this happen logically. Its better and easier to allow schools to do things that dont involve hand to hand cash. Better meal plans, campus transportation(bus pass, uber allowance) things like that.
Most college athletes who understand how the world works dont complain about getting paid, they complain about not being able to eat all the time.
With that being said, there is no way of making this happen logically. Its better and easier to allow schools to do things that dont involve hand to hand cash. Better meal plans, campus transportation(bus pass, uber allowance) things like that.
Most college athletes who understand how the world works dont complain about getting paid, they complain about not being able to eat all the time.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 10:47 am to wubilli
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You are wrong if you don’t think sports isn’t a business. All these top players that are getting paid 100-150K to go to schools definitely are worth more than that to those schools.
Of course it is currently a business. College sports shouldn't be, though. It should be about equal competition. That is the problem.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 10:53 am to JesusQuintana
Then another option could be to allow players to get some endorsements. Let MPJ sign with Nike, Adidas or Under Armour. Then the school isn’t paying him.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 10:59 am to wubilli
The problem with that is that schools would then just funnel money through their sponsors. It's the same reason they can't have jobs. Johnny works at a boosters car lot and gets paid $20 an hour to wash cars. Gets a 40 hr paycheck when he's there a total of 5.
Players already get a stipend. It could probably be higher, but it should be uniform also.
The problem is rules are made to be broken and any new set of rules you set will also be skirted by someone looking for an advantage.
The only way you stop cheating in recruiting is to end recruiting altogether and institute a draft.
Players already get a stipend. It could probably be higher, but it should be uniform also.
The problem is rules are made to be broken and any new set of rules you set will also be skirted by someone looking for an advantage.
The only way you stop cheating in recruiting is to end recruiting altogether and institute a draft.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 11:06 am to JesusQuintana
That’s not going to happen. A better option is a salary cap, or allow players to profit off of themselves. Limits can be put on those as well.
For those to happen my guess is that the P6 schools would need to break away from the ncaa.
For those to happen my guess is that the P6 schools would need to break away from the ncaa.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 11:08 am to wubilli
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allow players to profit off of themselves
Im down, as long as they pay their way through school. Otherwise, no.
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