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Posted on 12/13/16 at 7:58 pm to Sleeping Tiger
Posted on 12/13/16 at 7:58 pm to Sleeping Tiger
McGovern and Boehm were fixtures at their positions. The movement was at OG and RT. McGovern's play at LT is what caught Clarence Barone's attention. His play wasn't the issue.
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Posted on 12/13/16 at 8:15 pm to navynuke
McGovern being a fixture at LT isn't a rebuttal for him not being a true LT. He was learning on the job.
It was his athleticism that caught people's attention. Everyone knew he was out of position. McGovern himself talked about it not being ideal, Pinkel did too, it was common knowledge he took one on the chin because he was the most capable of playing out of position. He was not happy about it and feared it would hurt his NFL chances.
This year we had a new OC running a new offensive system built on quick read pass plays and an increased emphasis on RB and TE blocking, a very good true LT, and some other nice pieces -- as we saw that the younger guys should have played more in 15.
It was his athleticism that caught people's attention. Everyone knew he was out of position. McGovern himself talked about it not being ideal, Pinkel did too, it was common knowledge he took one on the chin because he was the most capable of playing out of position. He was not happy about it and feared it would hurt his NFL chances.
This year we had a new OC running a new offensive system built on quick read pass plays and an increased emphasis on RB and TE blocking, a very good true LT, and some other nice pieces -- as we saw that the younger guys should have played more in 15.
This post was edited on 12/13/16 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 12/13/16 at 8:48 pm to Sleeping Tiger
If you think McGovern didn't start working on his left back kick slide against a 9 technique immediately after the Arkansas game, you are fooling yourself.
“I’ve totally bought into the left tackle,” McGovern said. “I enjoy it. It’s something new to learn and gives me some extra stuff to do. It’s not monotonous. I enjoy it out there. It’s the position that every offensive lineman wants to play. It’s the superstar offensive lineman, so it’s fun to get out there and practice it and play it. Yeah, I’ve fully accepted that role.”
Read more here: LINK
His footwork and hand placement were why he graded out the way he did. He handled every edge pass rusher he faced in 2015.
Florida rotated Alex McCallister and Jonathan Bullard at him accumulated had 0.0 sacks. Derek Barnett had 0.0 sacks. Arkansas moved Deitrich Wise to the right edge so he could face Chappell instead of Connor.
McGovern had a solid Sr season and showed his versatility.
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. McGovern himself talked about it not being ideal,
“I’ve totally bought into the left tackle,” McGovern said. “I enjoy it. It’s something new to learn and gives me some extra stuff to do. It’s not monotonous. I enjoy it out there. It’s the position that every offensive lineman wants to play. It’s the superstar offensive lineman, so it’s fun to get out there and practice it and play it. Yeah, I’ve fully accepted that role.”
Read more here: LINK
His footwork and hand placement were why he graded out the way he did. He handled every edge pass rusher he faced in 2015.
Florida rotated Alex McCallister and Jonathan Bullard at him accumulated had 0.0 sacks. Derek Barnett had 0.0 sacks. Arkansas moved Deitrich Wise to the right edge so he could face Chappell instead of Connor.
McGovern had a solid Sr season and showed his versatility.
This post was edited on 12/13/16 at 9:20 pm
Posted on 12/13/16 at 9:21 pm to navynuke
He accepted it. He was also smart and said the right things. It was something he was apprehensive about in the beginning, it was something he explained as a tough transition and not an ideal situation.
They didn't have a natural LT, they put their most athletic and best OL men in the position out of need. There was no-one else.
He was always viewed as an NFL guard. He was graded on his athleticism and versatility, but was never viewed as a tackle by NFL teams. It was always understood that was a more-or-less a favor he did for the program.
This years offense was built on quick hit passes with pre-snap reads, more emphasis on additional blockers, a better prepared qb, and a more stable line -- in part to having a true left tackle, allowing everyone to play their best positions.
There's an assortment of credible reasons the OL was much better this year. It not as simple as the position coach working wonders.
They didn't have a natural LT, they put their most athletic and best OL men in the position out of need. There was no-one else.
He was always viewed as an NFL guard. He was graded on his athleticism and versatility, but was never viewed as a tackle by NFL teams. It was always understood that was a more-or-less a favor he did for the program.
This years offense was built on quick hit passes with pre-snap reads, more emphasis on additional blockers, a better prepared qb, and a more stable line -- in part to having a true left tackle, allowing everyone to play their best positions.
There's an assortment of credible reasons the OL was much better this year. It not as simple as the position coach working wonders.
Posted on 12/13/16 at 10:17 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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They didn't have a natural LT, they put their most athletic and best OL men in the position
This is what most programs do. There might be 3 guys a year drafted that can handle the left edge in the NFL. Tyler Howell won't be one of them.
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This years offense was built on quick hit passes with pre-snap reads,
Lock averaged over 14 yds per completed pass and 43% of his throws were to his outside WRs.
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more emphasis on additional blockers
MU spent 75% of their offensive snaps in a 6 man protection scheme in 2015.
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It not as simple as the position coach working wonders.
In summation, your primary explanation for why Henson and Ricker couldn't get their 6 man protection scheme to work and Elarbee could is Tyler Howell?
Awesome stuff.
This post was edited on 12/13/16 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 12/13/16 at 10:28 pm to navynuke
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In summation, your primary explanation for why Henson and Ricker couldn't get their 6 man protection scheme to work and Elarbee could is Tyler Howell?
Yikes.
That's a pathetic summation. Either that or you're getting pleasure out of the back-n-forth.
No. Tyler Howell is far from the only reason the line was better this year.
What I feel is written down. No sense in continuing.
Posted on 12/13/16 at 10:31 pm to Sleeping Tiger
Howell wasn't even the best OL this year. The best was RT Paul Adams. In power packages Simms came in at LT.
Posted on 12/13/16 at 10:34 pm to wubilli
I was working my way to this.
Posted on 12/13/16 at 11:06 pm to wubilli
The argument wasn't that Howell was the best offensive lineman or that he was the savior of the OL.
The argument was that a multitude of things factored into the the OL improvement, Elarbee being one of those things.
Nothing I've said should even be controversial.
McGovern wasn't a natural LT, he was a guard who was athletic and talented enough to handle LT. It wasn't ideal for him or the team. There were no other real options. Had they had a real LT, Connor would have been at guard and the line would have been much better. None of that is contestable.
This year they had guys who were true LT's, nobody was learning that technique for the first time in camp like McGovern did last year.
A new OC running a new scheme. Lock was coached and prepared far better. He understood pre-snap reads better. Play calling was improved. Philosophy was built on knowing where you were going before the snap. There was an increased emphasis on RB and TE blocking. And the talent across the line was overall better and more natural.
Elarbee did an awesome job. I like the guy on top of it. But the drastic improvement has more to do with other things than his coaching.
The argument was that a multitude of things factored into the the OL improvement, Elarbee being one of those things.
Nothing I've said should even be controversial.
McGovern wasn't a natural LT, he was a guard who was athletic and talented enough to handle LT. It wasn't ideal for him or the team. There were no other real options. Had they had a real LT, Connor would have been at guard and the line would have been much better. None of that is contestable.
This year they had guys who were true LT's, nobody was learning that technique for the first time in camp like McGovern did last year.
A new OC running a new scheme. Lock was coached and prepared far better. He understood pre-snap reads better. Play calling was improved. Philosophy was built on knowing where you were going before the snap. There was an increased emphasis on RB and TE blocking. And the talent across the line was overall better and more natural.
Elarbee did an awesome job. I like the guy on top of it. But the drastic improvement has more to do with other things than his coaching.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 9:19 am to Sleeping Tiger
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Had they had a real LT, Connor would have been at guard and the line would have been much better. None of that is contestable.
I agree.
McGovern was fine at LT, but it didn't matter because the line was getting blown up in the A gap. By the time an edge rusher would have been getting by the LT, Lock already had someone right in his face.
Moving McGovern back inside would have helped a lot with that, and given at least one side of Boehm that Mizzou could run the ball. Sure the LT would have sucked, but it would have been better than the interior being a constant sieve.
The refusal to switch McGovern back inside was the biggest mistake of 2015.
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