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re: 2013 Mizzou Football & Basketball Recruiting News *Commits and OVs in OP*
Posted on 12/1/12 at 9:02 pm to kilo
Posted on 12/1/12 at 9:02 pm to kilo
I disagree, but fair enough.
Apparently the talk on PowerMizzou is that we had a good shot at Ezekiel, but the staff slow-played him because his parents went to Mizzou. While Urban came in and made it clear that we was his recruit. Now, we have gotten it in gear and picked it up but the fact is why is this? This isnt necessarily a question I want an answer to, but I just dont get it. They know recruiting is a weakness, why dont we fix it? Whatever, produce or leave next year.
Apparently the talk on PowerMizzou is that we had a good shot at Ezekiel, but the staff slow-played him because his parents went to Mizzou. While Urban came in and made it clear that we was his recruit. Now, we have gotten it in gear and picked it up but the fact is why is this? This isnt necessarily a question I want an answer to, but I just dont get it. They know recruiting is a weakness, why dont we fix it? Whatever, produce or leave next year.
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Posted on 12/1/12 at 9:03 pm to kilo
The staff can't be blamed for this one particular de-commit. But the shitty season can definitely be blamed for it.
But it doesn't really matter. The core of this staff has topped out on their recruiting, and they've failed to do the one thing that is necessary for Mizzou to be a high level program, that is lock down the best players in this state.
For the most part, the only big time in-state guys they've got have had other circumstances that kept them here.
I almost made a thread about recent Missouri H.S. players we've lost. Its sickening when you think about it. In 12 years we've been no better than a C- with in-state recruiting.
And all these people are talking about QBs, we should have organized our QB recruiting the last 2 years around one kid Rafe Peavy. This guy has IT. He is the one we'll be very pissed about losing, yet no one talks about him. Mauk, Hosick, and Printz are all average prospects. All three have nerd tendencies. Mauk has a gut on him, his H.S numbers are just a product of his teams 4 down passing philosophy. Rafe is the guy with the talent, coolness, and balls.. the type of combo JFF possesses.
We need to get this DT Calloway. But he looks like a bad egg, which is probably why he's been passed over by the schools closer to him.
But it doesn't really matter. The core of this staff has topped out on their recruiting, and they've failed to do the one thing that is necessary for Mizzou to be a high level program, that is lock down the best players in this state.
For the most part, the only big time in-state guys they've got have had other circumstances that kept them here.
I almost made a thread about recent Missouri H.S. players we've lost. Its sickening when you think about it. In 12 years we've been no better than a C- with in-state recruiting.
And all these people are talking about QBs, we should have organized our QB recruiting the last 2 years around one kid Rafe Peavy. This guy has IT. He is the one we'll be very pissed about losing, yet no one talks about him. Mauk, Hosick, and Printz are all average prospects. All three have nerd tendencies. Mauk has a gut on him, his H.S numbers are just a product of his teams 4 down passing philosophy. Rafe is the guy with the talent, coolness, and balls.. the type of combo JFF possesses.
We need to get this DT Calloway. But he looks like a bad egg, which is probably why he's been passed over by the schools closer to him.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 9:12 pm to Stripes314
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Apparently the talk on PowerMizzou is that we had a good shot at Ezekiel, but the staff slow-played him because his parents went to Mizzou. While Urban came in and made it clear that we was his recruit. Now, we have gotten it in gear and picked it up but the fact is why is this? This isnt necessarily a question I want an answer to, but I just dont get it.
I read that stuff on PM and it was shot down no? Regardless it sucks to lose out on a homegrown talent like that.
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They know recruiting is a weakness, why dont we fix it?
If it was that easy wouldnt we have found a staff that recruit conference title talent sometime in the last 40 years? Thats been my point the whole time with the fire Pinkel sentiment. Im not sure AT THIS POINT we will do better than what Pinkel can do. Im not saying in the future that we shouldn't strive for better but a bad hire and the recruiting can get a lot worse. We need stability during the transition and need to develop inroads into the new territories. Pinkel's staff can take those baby steps and if he is not capable and viable as a long term solution you replace him.
I really think my stance about this current staff is misrepresented. Im not "for" Pinkel, Im against making changes with the program on unsure footing that could cause far more harm to the program than a 5-7 inaugural season in the SEC. If we get a repeat next year with little signs of improvement then the risk/reward would be more in line with a change of staff.
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produce or leave next year.
I agree
Posted on 12/1/12 at 9:31 pm to mograyback
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The core of this staff has topped out on their recruiting
A fear of mine as well.
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they've failed to do the one thing that is necessary for Mizzou to be a high level program, that is lock down the best players in this state.
They have been better keeping kids home than any other staff in the last 40 years or so, it could be worse at this point.
I am with you on the QB recruitment and evaluation as well. There was a 5 year period were I felt it was the least of our worries but I m with you now. That position is not a lock down strength for the program.
This post was edited on 12/1/12 at 9:34 pm
Posted on 12/1/12 at 9:41 pm to kilo
at your Sig by the way 
Posted on 12/1/12 at 9:42 pm to Stripes314
I was bored.
I think MS2 made a post or something like that with that image.
I think MS2 made a post or something like that with that image.
This post was edited on 12/1/12 at 9:43 pm
Posted on 12/1/12 at 9:48 pm to kilo
The recruiting thread is getting depressing... this class is not SEC material anymore.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 9:53 pm to BreakawayZou83
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The recruiting thread is getting depressing... this class is not SEC material anymore.
No it is not. They need to pull a rabbit/rabbits out of their hat.
The product on the field needs to be better in 2013 and the class needs to be better in 2014 with more inroads into FL and GA. If not than the program isnt moving forward and its time for change.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 9:53 pm to BreakawayZou83
Honestly hasnt ever been but at least it was close with Ramirez
Posted on 12/1/12 at 10:06 pm to Stripes314
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Honestly hasnt ever been but at least it was close with Ramirez
I was pumped at the beginning of the cycle. Mizzou was off to a good start but boy did that momentum stall out with a quickness.
There could be some surprises yet that could save the class from being a Mid Big 12 class into at least bottom 1/3 SEC class. Im not really holding my breath though.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 10:09 pm to mograyback
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Rafe Peavy
We never had a shot with him. Life long hog fan. He talked shite to Branson on Twitter then got his arse handed to him.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 10:12 pm to URHatinIt
Wasnt he a Hog legacy recruit?
Posted on 12/1/12 at 10:17 pm to URHatinIt
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Life long hog fan. He talked shite to Branson on Twitter then got his arse handed to him.
LOL What a Piece of shite
Posted on 12/1/12 at 11:27 pm to Stripes314
All I got to say is thank god for Kentucky.
Posted on 12/2/12 at 2:48 am to reedus23
And after Franklin leaves Vandy we'll own them too
Posted on 12/2/12 at 8:30 am to kilo
This is not necessarily towards you kilo, but in reality your dealing with kids. Also in reality these recruits are going to do whats in thier best interests, no in the interest of the schools they are looking at.
One of the things that jumps out at me with Campos was when he commited to Mizzou, he stated it really was not the football program but they had the academics he was looking for. Evidently, so does ISU. Everyone has to understand that he had friends at ISU and its like 45 min. drive from home. They are a program on the rise also. I don't personaly think the down year we had played into it as much as it probably did for Ramirez. You hate to lose a guy like Campos, but it happens.
One of the things that jumps out at me with Campos was when he commited to Mizzou, he stated it really was not the football program but they had the academics he was looking for. Evidently, so does ISU. Everyone has to understand that he had friends at ISU and its like 45 min. drive from home. They are a program on the rise also. I don't personaly think the down year we had played into it as much as it probably did for Ramirez. You hate to lose a guy like Campos, but it happens.
Posted on 12/2/12 at 10:58 am to jafo
I don't necessarily disagree with anything anyone has said but my take is that every single recruit has one or more reasons on why they would pick another school over Mizzou. It could be proximity to home, it could be friends, it could be parent's alma mater, could be tradition, it could be warm weather, or any number of a million things. Regardless of the consideration, I think it is true that in every single situation, Mizzou (or any other school) is faced with competing against these interests when recruiting a kid. This staff gets paid handsomely to convince these kids that the reasons to go to Mizzou outweigh these reasons they would pick a different school. So at the end of the day, is it surprising for a kid like Campos to pick his home school which is on the rise? No. Is it a failure on behalf of the staff for not convincing him that the pros of going to Mizzou outweigh those considerations? Yes. Too many failures will make for very frustrating football on Saturdays.
Posted on 12/2/12 at 12:11 pm to reedus23
I don't necessarily disagree with what your saying. In a nut shell, I'm saying in the end, your dealing with kids. It's that simple. Why does it have to be anyones fault if they go elsewhere? Campos must have decided to stay home, which does not supprise me. ISU is a team he grew up with.
Posted on 12/2/12 at 3:20 pm to jafo
Ok St DE commit Ogbonnia Okoronkwo visited this weekend.
Posted on 12/2/12 at 3:23 pm to URHatinIt
FSU commit Davin Bellamy may visit in January
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