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Posted on 2/24/13 at 5:04 pm to darkhorse
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His style of practice coming into the msu was over the top. It cost us injuries and if he continues we are going to see more due to players being fatigued.
WHERE'S THE MFing LINK!?!
Posted on 2/24/13 at 5:14 pm to pivey14
Because I have a friggin record of posting lies just for no reason...
So here you go... Goto ESPN 3. Load up the game. Go to 10:36 left in the game. Better yet, go on and start with 11 minutes left. Click play. Then listen.
Then goto the post game interviews and listen to the question being asked about being tired. Here the words from ware and Steele.
Then come back here and give me the excuses of how that does not prove anything.... Cause we don't know. Fact is, you have the words of the coach. The words of the players... The results of his coaching.
It's simple. He's over the top, and he does not have to be. Not to accomplish players that are game ready and in shape. He's putting them at risk regardless of what chargedog or anybody else "thinks". It's friggin medical fact.
So here you go... Goto ESPN 3. Load up the game. Go to 10:36 left in the game. Better yet, go on and start with 11 minutes left. Click play. Then listen.
Then goto the post game interviews and listen to the question being asked about being tired. Here the words from ware and Steele.
Then come back here and give me the excuses of how that does not prove anything.... Cause we don't know. Fact is, you have the words of the coach. The words of the players... The results of his coaching.
It's simple. He's over the top, and he does not have to be. Not to accomplish players that are game ready and in shape. He's putting them at risk regardless of what chargedog or anybody else "thinks". It's friggin medical fact.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 5:21 pm to darkhorse
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Because I have a friggin record of posting lies just for no reason...
Did CJ ever go to Oxford?
Posted on 2/24/13 at 5:23 pm to Requiem For A Dawg
Yes he did. Not when I said he had not. Fact. Look up the times.
Also... Was only being extremely factual with the ole miss fans who were being pricks.
Also... Was only being extremely factual with the ole miss fans who were being pricks.
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Posted on 2/24/13 at 5:29 pm to darkhorse
Not my problem. You look that shite up.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 5:37 pm to pivey14
I'm good. Remain as you are. Could careless.
He needs to go. He has no clue as a head coach. You do not take fatigued players and practice them for 3 hours the Fay before a game and expect anything other than what you got. Then complain about the effort??? Lol!!!
He needs to go. He has no clue as a head coach. You do not take fatigued players and practice them for 3 hours the Fay before a game and expect anything other than what you got. Then complain about the effort??? Lol!!!
Posted on 2/24/13 at 5:43 pm to darkhorse
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Could careless.
Which means you do care some. How much less could you care?
Posted on 2/24/13 at 5:52 pm to Requiem For A Dawg
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Which means you do care some. How much less could you care?
Damn, you beat me to it
Posted on 2/24/13 at 5:54 pm to darkhorse
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Could careless.
This thread says otherwise
Posted on 2/24/13 at 5:56 pm to Requiem For A Dawg
100% correct.
So why would he practiced an admitted fatigued team and make them practice for 3 hours the day before a game. What purpose does that serve?
None. It's ignorance.
So why would he practiced an admitted fatigued team and make them practice for 3 hours the day before a game. What purpose does that serve?
None. It's ignorance.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 5:57 pm to pivey14
Can we petition to have Dumbhorse banned for complete and utter ignorance?
Posted on 2/24/13 at 6:07 pm to ChargerDog91
On what?? The practice? It happened. Gave you the link. Our own announcers talked about it. Ignorance is on you. You willfully want to remain that way, go right ahead.
Ignorance?? Did Ware not state he was fatigued? Steele? Seems to me you are the one who does not want to accept the truth.
Are you saying fatigue does not hamper concentration and skill sets? Are you saying fatigue isn't behind ligament tears??
Why not answer those questions kiddo. You asked for links I gave them. So stay around... Answer the questions.
Ignorance?? Did Ware not state he was fatigued? Steele? Seems to me you are the one who does not want to accept the truth.
Are you saying fatigue does not hamper concentration and skill sets? Are you saying fatigue isn't behind ligament tears??
Why not answer those questions kiddo. You asked for links I gave them. So stay around... Answer the questions.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 6:12 pm to darkhorse
You are freaking idiot and can't comprehend a damn thing anyone tells you.
Well naw shite Sherlock. A depleted team with 7-8 players is going to struggle at the end of the season because of fatigue from a long season. That's what you refuse to understand. Yeah a long practice sucks, but that isn't the reason they are fatigued so bad, it's the season as a whole.
So you know exactly what happened that entire 3 hours right? If so please do tell I'm ready to hear.
His style of practice is actually pretty laid back. (I was there) It's intense to be begin but usually slows down to allow players rest. You have no earthly idea how they practice.
Really you bring this shite up again, when I've already told you it wasn't anything to do with the practice itself. I was there for freaking 2 of 3 injuries. 2 OF THE 3! I saw what happened. Freak accidents happened. Jacoby Davis' injury happened at the beginning of the practice in layup drills. They were using dummies to simulate a body down low and he got hit and landed awkwardly. Dre' Applewhite's happened the day before our first game, while attempting to drive the lane in a 5 on 5 drill. Wendell Lewis went down after landing awkwardly on his knee in big man drills.
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A depleted team who is fatigued and that's why we were out rebounded and could not shoot worth a crap.
Well naw shite Sherlock. A depleted team with 7-8 players is going to struggle at the end of the season because of fatigue from a long season. That's what you refuse to understand. Yeah a long practice sucks, but that isn't the reason they are fatigued so bad, it's the season as a whole.
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He put them through a 3 hour practice the day before a game
So you know exactly what happened that entire 3 hours right? If so please do tell I'm ready to hear.
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His style of practice coming into the msu was over the top.
His style of practice is actually pretty laid back. (I was there) It's intense to be begin but usually slows down to allow players rest. You have no earthly idea how they practice.
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It cost us injuries
Really you bring this shite up again, when I've already told you it wasn't anything to do with the practice itself. I was there for freaking 2 of 3 injuries. 2 OF THE 3! I saw what happened. Freak accidents happened. Jacoby Davis' injury happened at the beginning of the practice in layup drills. They were using dummies to simulate a body down low and he got hit and landed awkwardly. Dre' Applewhite's happened the day before our first game, while attempting to drive the lane in a 5 on 5 drill. Wendell Lewis went down after landing awkwardly on his knee in big man drills.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 6:12 pm to darkhorse
I'm saying they are freaking fatigued because of long season with a small amount of players, not one freaking practice. Damn you are dumb as shite.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 6:13 pm to darkhorse
1, count it, one 3 hour long practice does not fatigue players the way a long basketball season does. These are MEN, not children. Players are going to be fatigued when you only have 7-8 that touch the court. Quit digging your hole deeper. Also, you can't blame the coach for low shooting percentages. Last time I checked, Ray isn't playing. Maybe you should put your shitty argument behind and realize that are players just aren't that good 
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Posted on 2/24/13 at 6:26 pm to pivey14
At 21 years old and in the genetic top 1% (which SEC bball players are) a 3 hour practice is not of much consequence if the nutrition is there. "Fast Carbs" before and after practice w/ protein after and they wake up good as new. On game day, rinse and repeat. Not only is our roster tiny but they are full of freshman who have hit the freshman wall. Blaming Ray for practice is dumb. Blaming Stansbury for the condition of the program is fair
Posted on 2/24/13 at 6:29 pm to stoms
Also, I would rather Rick Ray overwork them than underwork them like Stans. I felt like I was watching The Biggest Loser in the Stans era.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 6:30 pm to stoms
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At 21 years old and in the genetic top 1% (which SEC bball players are) a 3 hour practice is not of much consequence if the nutrition is there. "Fast Carbs" before and after practice w/ protein after and they wake up good as new. On game day, rinse and repeat. Not only is our roster tiny but they are full of freshman who have hit the freshman wall. Blaming Ray for practice is dumb. Blaming Stansbury for the condition of the program is fair
This was meant for darkhorse, right? Cause I agree with everything you just wrote.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 6:35 pm to ChargerDog91
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You are freaking idiot and can't comprehend a damn thing anyone tells you.
It's not me who has a hard time reading and comprehending. An idiot I'm not. Far more educated than you know... And pretty decent iq.
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Well naw shite Sherlock. A depleted team with 7-8 players is going to struggle at the end of the season because of fatigue from a long season. That's what you refuse to understand. Yeah a long practice sucks, but that isn't the reason they are fatigued so bad, it's the season as a whole.
Lol... Go read what I stated... Then post it here where I stated they were not fatigued prior to the practice. Then post where I stated that the practice was the reason they were fatigued.
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His style of practice is actually pretty laid back. (I was there) It's intense to be begin but usually slows down to allow players rest. You have no earthly idea how they practice.
Ah.... Then he lied in his interviews. And players have lied to me. Got you! I fully understand.
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Really you bring this shite up again, when I've already told you it wasn't anything to do with the practice itself. I was there for freaking 2 of 3 injuries. 2 OF THE 3! I saw what happened. Freak accidents happened. Jacoby Davis' injury happened at the beginning of the practice in layup drills. They were using dummies to simulate a body down low and he got hit and landed awkwardly. Dre' Applewhite's happened the day before our first game, while attempting to drive the lane in a 5 on 5 drill. Wendell Lewis went down after landing awkwardly on his knee in big man drills.
Here you go again. Kid, seriously you try to explain things and don't even get that you are proving the point exactly.
Read the words you are saying . Then grasp this part. You seem to think fatigue only takes place as a season comes to a end. It does not. I can fatigue you in a few hours, test you and prove it.
Now grasp medical science... Proven medical science. Fatigue will cause players to land wrong. This is tested over over and over. And frankly, its common sense.
Now understand this part.... A night's rest will not remedy the fatigue...
Now follow me on this. The fact that it happened at the beginning of practice pretty much goes in line with the research. You see a player would be feeling ok after rest, but the muscles not recouped. They begin to play and the fatigue is still present. The muscles responde for a short period only. Then it happens. Again this is all researched.
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