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Posted on 1/23/13 at 2:37 pm to
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 1/23/13 at 2:37 pm to
If, and it is a big if, Stans stayed and we had kept Deville Smith, Hood, Bryant, etc. we could have possibly made the tourney b/c of a weak conference.

Then we would have gotten our arse kicked in the tourney, and been stuck with Stans 4 more years.

I'm glad Ray has the advantage of a down SEC so we don't look so terrible, and hopefully that helps get some good recruits in for next year.
Posted by Tds & Beer
TOT DAT MOFAN~DRIP DRIP~Bunty Pls
Member since Sep 2009
23875 posts
Posted on 1/23/13 at 3:01 pm to
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If, and it is a big if, Stans stayed and we had kept Deville Smith, Hood, Bryant, etc. we could have possibly made the tourney b/c of a weak conference.


You have no way of knowing this because there would still have been no offensive foundation whatsoever. Bryant graduated. If Stans had stayed, Hood would not have stayed anyway. Deville was a chicken with his head cut off. He would have stayed that way as long as Rick was his coach.
Posted by ChargerDog91
Member since May 2012
4492 posts
Posted on 1/23/13 at 3:38 pm to
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Erick Dampier, Darryl Wilson, Tyrone Washington, Horatio Webster, Quenten Smith, Tang Hamilton, Markell Patterson,


Two words = Richard Williams

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Mario Roberts




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Timmy Bowers, Derrick Zimmerman, Lawrence Roberts Charles Rhodes, Jamont Gordon


With a coach that could have gotten deeper in the NCAA's these kids are possibly playing in the NBA, but they didn't get that chance.

You forgot to mention that a kid Stans threw under the bus and kicked off for no reason is now playing overseas and doing well for himself. Phil Turner. Was basically kicked off to make room for The fat arse Sidney. Great move by Stans wasn't it?
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100250 posts
Posted on 1/23/13 at 6:16 pm to
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You have no way of knowing this because there would still have been no offensive foundation whatsoever. Bryant graduated. If Stans had stayed, Hood would not have stayed anyway. Deville was a chicken with his head cut off. He would have stayed that way as long as Rick was his coach.


Key word you missed "IF". I'm fully aware of what all you stated. I was just saying if we had retained that talent we possibly could have been a tourney team just because we'd beat shitty SEC teams on talent alone.
Posted by BaseballDawg23
MS
Member since May 2012
260 posts
Posted on 1/23/13 at 8:57 pm to
I would rather watch our team this year work their butts off then watch Sidney's fat arse walk down the court and play no defense. Lazy SOB. Needed dicipline and it's sad that a SEC basketball program cannot bring dicipline to him.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100250 posts
Posted on 1/23/13 at 9:06 pm to
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I would rather watch our team this year work their butts off then watch Sidney's fat arse walk down the court and play no defense. Lazy SOB



I agree with this no doubt. I think Ray will do good things at MSU if he recruits some solid talent.
Posted by CoonassBulldog
Member since Sep 2008
6913 posts
Posted on 1/23/13 at 10:47 pm to
wow- just wow.

Stansbury would have been hardpressed to have a winning record this year. No discipline, lots of youth, terrible floor coaching- doesnt add up to wins.

Stands went 15-15 during a rebuilding year in 2006 when he still had some fire. He had the easiest non-conference schedule in the history of the school. He had Gordon, Rhodes, and a few others that could play.

Can you imagine him this season- with all his lack of discipline and floor coaching- having to play North Carolina, Marquette, Texas- teams he couldnt beat with good teams- and having all these young kids to actually coach? It would be beyond embarrassing-at least Ray has them in shape and playing hard as hell.

Engie summed it up- Ware loses 30 pounds in 3 months with the same strength coach the Stands had for all his years and players. Stands didnt make them do shite or work hard. He is indefensable at this point.
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
The Grindfather
Member since Dec 2010
36293 posts
Posted on 1/23/13 at 10:52 pm to
We need 2 good big men and a PG

I'm confident in Ready at PG, but he big guy for. Africa may be a John Reik 2.0 with better knees and slightly better offense.
Posted by Allyn McKeen
Key West, FL
Member since Jun 2012
4649 posts
Posted on 1/24/13 at 10:59 am to
I am sure that my MSU basketball profile fits MANY MSU fans.

- I was a season ticket holder and went to every game.
- I started missing a few games and looked for people to buy my tickets.
- I missed more games and looked for people to take my tickets.
- I stopped buying season tickets and looked for singles to select games.
- I stopped going to any games.
- I stopped watching games on TV.

If Ray keeps these guys playing hard, I will be back. So will most people. Woody McCorvey knows more about offense than Stans knows about managing a basketball program.
Posted by Requiem For A Dawg
Guff of Mex
Member since Dec 2010
11985 posts
Posted on 1/24/13 at 12:44 pm to
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If Ray keeps these guys playing hard, I will be back. So will most people. Woody McCorvey knows more about offense than Stans knows about managing a basketball program.


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