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Napier said no to a 4 year 20 million deal?
Posted on 1/5/20 at 7:41 pm
Posted on 1/5/20 at 7:41 pm
Are the optics that bad for us firing Joe for a coach to turn down that payday when he might make a million a year where he is now?
We might have screwed up royally and set our program back years and end up like Arkansas is. I’m worried
We might have screwed up royally and set our program back years and end up like Arkansas is. I’m worried
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Posted on 1/5/20 at 8:12 pm to deltaland
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Napier said no to a 4 year 20 million deal?
I do not believe this one bit.
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We might have screwed up royally and set our program back years and end up like Arkansas is. I’m worried
I hope you haven't. The bottom of the barrel where we have been is a place no fan should ever be.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 8:21 pm to deltaland
Eh we'll see Tuesday. I've gotten on board with Joe Judge if it isn't him
Posted on 1/6/20 at 5:01 am to deltaland
Don’t let the liberal media tell you what to think and feel deltaland. We’re gonna be just fine.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 7:22 am to deltaland
I'm going to be totally honest as a coach looking at his job.. First let me say State did the right thing letting Moorhead go.. You were going in a bad direction and it was showing. That was a huge first step, now you need a STATE guy. Reason be is lets be honest.. The job posting should read like this
How outside coaches see Job posting at State:
Every state around you recruits better in your state than you do, and now your rival has added a top recruiter and the school has 10x more boosters than your school. Also even if you beat ole miss 2 years in a row and go to a bowl game with 6 wins you will be fired in two years. We want 8 wins and a victory over A&M and LSU plus beat Ole Piss .
Thats a hard pill for any coach to swallow unless they are a STATE guy. It has to be a guy loyal as all get our or really has a chip on his shoulder. Napier doesn't fit that bill.. he has other schools wanting him that require less in a easier conference. SEC is hard and its damn hard in the West
How outside coaches see Job posting at State:
Every state around you recruits better in your state than you do, and now your rival has added a top recruiter and the school has 10x more boosters than your school. Also even if you beat ole miss 2 years in a row and go to a bowl game with 6 wins you will be fired in two years. We want 8 wins and a victory over A&M and LSU plus beat Ole Piss .
Thats a hard pill for any coach to swallow unless they are a STATE guy. It has to be a guy loyal as all get our or really has a chip on his shoulder. Napier doesn't fit that bill.. he has other schools wanting him that require less in a easier conference. SEC is hard and its damn hard in the West
Posted on 1/6/20 at 9:22 am to The Winner
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Eh we'll see Tuesday.
Let me just say this, either way it goes, that puppet's look will go down as an all-time legend.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 10:18 am to deltaland
If Napier takes $4MM then he has a crappy agent. If i were him I wouldn't take the job for anything less than 4.5MM maybe even 5MM. He's a hot commodity with options. Cohen needs to stop being cheap with HC and their staff pay. Every P5 team in the country is loaded with money and can pay up. The amount of risk taking the Mississippi State job is enormous due to our schedule. Someone that is already a HC with his success would be an idiot to take 4MM at a power 5 job.
your ignorance shows.
your ignorance shows.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 10:47 am to yatesdog38
Are you serious? I think you are.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 10:59 am to Cdawg
Why not let Tony Hughes keep the job? I mean he's the one that's bringing in all of the talent & he seems to love State.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 11:13 am to Cdawg
You could throw in some bonus incentives and start him lower, but there isn't an realistic way to get there in the first year.
every top 50 coach counting incentives has the ability to make 4.5MM as of 2019
All top 30 jobs are paying $4MM a year salary or more not counting incentives
Napier is a HC not some assistant. I'm just telling you what he is going to demand. If I'm the guy 4MM is the minimum starting with up to $1MM bonus for NY6 or better and 500M for any bowl game. Pay is listed below.
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every top 50 coach counting incentives has the ability to make 4.5MM as of 2019
All top 30 jobs are paying $4MM a year salary or more not counting incentives
Napier is a HC not some assistant. I'm just telling you what he is going to demand. If I'm the guy 4MM is the minimum starting with up to $1MM bonus for NY6 or better and 500M for any bowl game. Pay is listed below.
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This post was edited on 1/6/20 at 11:14 am
Posted on 1/6/20 at 12:09 pm to Cdawg
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Are you serious? I think you are.
He’s serious as shite about the stuff he posts on here.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 12:20 pm to deltaland
I’m gonna watch his Bowl tonight, regardless.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 12:28 pm to yatesdog38
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All top 30 jobs are paying $4MM
Ok, so now we're backing down from 4.5MM or 5MM now after you looked at current salaries?
BTW, we're offering Billy pretty much the same deal as Drinkwitz. You know the guy that actually beat Billy twice last year and once for the championship.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 12:40 pm to Cdawg
It is high risk low reward. The amount of financial resources being utilized in the SEC for assistants is the lowest and you have combined with a whiny fanbase, crappy compliance department, and a micromanager for a boss. Cohen has lost institutional control. I would say no to it and tell Cohen to kick rocks and pound sand. Cohen turned us into UT, but worse.
If I wasn't a head coach at a G5 then $4,000,000 would be attractive.
Napier will have options.
If I wasn't a head coach at a G5 then $4,000,000 would be attractive.
Napier will have options.
This post was edited on 1/6/20 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 1/6/20 at 12:50 pm to yatesdog38
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It is high risk low reward.
Mullen agrees.
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The amount of financial resources being utilized in the SEC for assistants is the lowest
The number I saw was the same as Mizzou for assistants. The exact same deal.
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If I wasn't a head coach at a G5 then $4,000,000 would be attractive.
What world are you living in man? 800k to 4MM isn't a attractive? You know if he wins 6, he will get a bump next year.
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Napier will have options.
such as?
Posted on 1/6/20 at 1:01 pm to Cdawg
He may not have any this year, but that is poor thinking. He is thinking 3, 5, 10 years from now. Only Mullen has moved on to better things from Mississippi State, and he was a coordinator not a HC and one that was about to lose his job. It was easier to offer him less money and for him to accept.
I guess we will find out tomorrow, but if it isn't Napier it isn't because WE said no. It is because he turned us down, and he will turn us down because of the reasons I stated.
I guess we will find out tomorrow, but if it isn't Napier it isn't because WE said no. It is because he turned us down, and he will turn us down because of the reasons I stated.
This post was edited on 1/6/20 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 1/6/20 at 1:30 pm to yatesdog38
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He may not have any this year, but that is poor thinking. He is thinking 3, 5, 10 years from now.
A bird in hand is worth more than two in the bush.
He's guaranteed 10 or 12 million. Would you take that right now or would you risk next season at Ulala? What if he goes 7-5? What's his worth then? Even if he wins the conference next year, will he command what the current conference champ earned this year? If he wins how much more do you think he will get? maybe a little more? What's that money difference vs a bump in pay for winning 6 games next at State? Which coaching spots are going to come open?
Mike Norvell is only making 3.75M next year at FSU then a bump up to 4. I think he had a better year than Napier.
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but if it isn't Napier it isn't because WE said no.
It just might be if he wants more than his worth.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 1:39 pm to Cdawg
Time to bring in white trash superstar Kendall Briles.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 1:56 pm to Cdawg
k.
Only he gets to determine his worth. That's the problem is all of you assume that Mississippi State has leverage on his career. That is absolutely right the opposite. Only a handful of Teams are destination places. So we have to "overpay" by fans standards or raise our standards. In his mind, he is in the driver's seat for Mississippi State and anyone currently doing well in the G5 would think the same thing if Mississippi State calls.
Only he gets to determine his worth. That's the problem is all of you assume that Mississippi State has leverage on his career. That is absolutely right the opposite. Only a handful of Teams are destination places. So we have to "overpay" by fans standards or raise our standards. In his mind, he is in the driver's seat for Mississippi State and anyone currently doing well in the G5 would think the same thing if Mississippi State calls.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 2:10 pm to Eric Nies Grind Time
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Time to bring in white trash superstar Kendall Briles.
You and I have been on him since the day we saw his kids' names. Plus it would be awesome to pull the rug on Arkansas.
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