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Posted on 3/23/13 at 6:23 pm
Posted on 3/23/13 at 6:23 pm
Meant to put this thread up earlier, but I had 3 tests on thursday and friday and didn't get around to it. Anyways, here's the link to the spring depth chart, so none of the freshman are here yet.
Depth Chart
But that's just for proof. I'll post it in a second.
Format is
POS- Starter(Height, Weight, Year), Backup(Height, Weight, Year)
OFFENSE
WR- Joe(6-4, 210 SO), Fr. Brown(86, 6-1, 180, FR)
WR- Jameon(5-10, 185, JR),Holloway(5-9, 165, FR)
WR- RoJo (6-1, 220, JR), Chappelle(6-3, 210, JR)
1.Lol Ricco Sanders.
2.Wasn't Joe 180 when he came in two years ago? I know we all #balismade over here, but dang, 210? Jameon 185? RoJo 220? That's some strong boys over there.
3.Easily the position we have the least experience in on offense. I think we'll have some growing pains but have an overall deeper WR core than last year.
4.Due to inexperience I expect a lot of shuffling in this group. Chappelle could beat out RoJo or Joe for a starting spot depending on how well he does. Micheal Carr could also make some noise for PT if he gets back into form. Fred Ross and Donald Gray(if he qualifies) will probably make immediate impacts in the 2-deep. I don't see Donald Gray getting here and not playing with us only having 2 slot receivers in Lewis and Holloway. 3 if you count Sander I guess, but I don't see him holding back Gray. Don't see anybody but Ross or Gray breaking through a redshirt personally.
LT- Clausell(6-7, 315, Jr), Justin Senior(6-5, 300, So)
LG-Gabe(6-4, 335, Sr), Ben Beckwith(6-3, 300, Jr)
C- Dillon(6-4, 295, Jr), Holley(6-3, 290, Sr)
RG- Justin Malone(6-7, 320, So), Muniz(6-5, 300, Jr)
RT- Siddoway(6-7, 305, Sr), Damien(6-8, 330, Jr)
1. Losing Tobias hurts, but I thought Malone did a good job, especially for a freshman. I really like our starting interior.
2.Our starting line is good overall(not world beaters, but good), but our backups, especially on the interior, worry me. Beckwith is probably the best of the bunch, but Muniz and Holley are both terrible. Injuries on the line could be worse than 2011.
3.Unless Cole Carter is better than I think he is, and he very may well be, I'm pretty sure we'll have to burn a redshirt on a tackle and we'll probably burn one on a guard regardless. I don't see Flowers or Thomas moving to the inside, but that our only option other then that is Clayborne. We really need to get Roderick Taylor or a similar guard in this years class if we ever want to improve our offensive line.
TE- MoJo(6-2, 235, Jr), Brandon Hill(6-2, 240, Jr)
RB- Perk(5-10, 195, Sr), Josh(5-9, 225, So)
QB- Tyler(6-5, 220, Sr), Dak(6-2, 230, So)
1.Everyone knows the QB situation by now. Cord needs to be undrafted or drafted at some certain time(Engie knows more specifics than I do. Too early is bad and too late is bad) if we want any depth at all, and Dak is currently booted up, which could be a good thing if it gets him a lot of time to work on his throwing before the season. Tyler's going to start, and we may finally have some receivers to help him out. Not all we need is for him to get a little better feet or for our OLine to give him a little more time.
2.RB doesn't really tell us anything but that the coaches like Josh better than Milton right now. How Griffin recovers will be huge, but for now I'm betting he'll come in behind Josh and in front of Milton, and it'll take him time and a good showing to get in front of Josh. Perk's #1 of course, but I'm hoping we rotate him out a bit more against the better defenses. Simply need bigger bodies. Not sure what we'll do with Shumpert. He's a great athlete, but unless Griffin doesn't recover well and Milton hasn't gotten any better from last season(especially with fumble issues), then we've got at least 3 good backs in front of him.
3.MoJo's #1, so that'll help our receiving game a lot. Especially considering he'll be there all season instead of us having to wait to see him until game 7. Brandon Hill is a solid back-up, but I really hope we get to see Rufus Warren in some blocking situations in the spring game. He's easily the biggest TE we've got, and we'll need some help on the edges to block Clowney and whatever other athletic freaks come out of the woodworks in SEC play.
DEFENSE
DE- Preston(6-6, 255, Jr), Ry. Brown(6-7, 260, So)
DT- Kaleb(6-4, 290, So), Nick(6-5, 345, So)
DT- PJ(6-4, 295, Jr), Virges(6-4, 315, Jr)
DE- Denico(6-5, 265, JR), AJ Jefferson(6-3, 260, Fr)
1. I like Preston(and Ryan and AJ for that matter), but Chris Jones looks prepped to start immediately. Heard from a friend of mine that went to school with him that he weighed in recently at 280 though, which scares the hell out of me. I do not want him moved to DT. We need some edge pressure.
2. Really happy with the move of Kaleb from DE to DT. Really fits him more, especially if he's gained 5-10 pounds from last season.
3. Nick and Quay really need to get their crap together. Eulls and PJ are good, but heaven help us if we need to ever need to put in Virges, Nelson, or Jordan Washington. Hoping Turner can work some magic here. We could have some really special on the DLine this year.
LB-Skinner(6-2, 250, Sr), Chris Hughes(6-1, 225, Sr)
LB-McKinney(6-5, 235, So), Bohanna(6-2, 225, Jr)
LB-Wells(6-2, 215, Jr), Zach Jackson(6-2 215, So)
1.I'm expecting us to be better in coverage and a little weaker in run support by trading Cam for Wells. McKinney and Skinner having another year to grow and get some experience.
2.Neither of the Browns made it into the 2-deep. I'm expecting the second string to be a revolving door, but they still won't get a lot of time this year unless Beniquez beats out Hughes/Jackson or Richie beats out Bohanna. I'm expecting Beniquez to take Skinner's spot after he leaves, and I hope he gets some good PT this year.
CB-Love(5-10, 175, Jr), Jiles(5-10, 185, So)
SS-Jay Hughes(5-11, 195, Jr), Market(5-10, 190, So)
FS-Nickoe(6, 205, Sr), Arrington(6-1, 215, Jr)
CB-Cox(6-3, 195, Jr), Redmond(6, 190, Fr)
1.I think the Corners are a good group. I might take a lot of flak for this, but Love is a good player and I think he'll play very well as a starter. Cox should be great from what we've heard, but I think he'll be here next year. From what I heard he's very fast, but out of shape, and has been working hard but suffering in the workouts. Redmond and Jiles will be need to be ready to sub in.
2.Scared of our safeties. Nickoe seems to have lost a step since his injury, and I hope he's retaken Geometry, because some his angles last season were horrendous. Jay Hughes has never given me the impression he needs to be a starter, but I don't know what else we can do. We won't start Arrington for some reason and I don't think any of Market, Quad or Evans is ready yet.
Depth Chart
But that's just for proof. I'll post it in a second.
Format is
POS- Starter(Height, Weight, Year), Backup(Height, Weight, Year)
OFFENSE
WR- Joe(6-4, 210 SO), Fr. Brown(86, 6-1, 180, FR)
WR- Jameon(5-10, 185, JR),Holloway(5-9, 165, FR)
WR- RoJo (6-1, 220, JR), Chappelle(6-3, 210, JR)
1.Lol Ricco Sanders.
2.Wasn't Joe 180 when he came in two years ago? I know we all #balismade over here, but dang, 210? Jameon 185? RoJo 220? That's some strong boys over there.
3.Easily the position we have the least experience in on offense. I think we'll have some growing pains but have an overall deeper WR core than last year.
4.Due to inexperience I expect a lot of shuffling in this group. Chappelle could beat out RoJo or Joe for a starting spot depending on how well he does. Micheal Carr could also make some noise for PT if he gets back into form. Fred Ross and Donald Gray(if he qualifies) will probably make immediate impacts in the 2-deep. I don't see Donald Gray getting here and not playing with us only having 2 slot receivers in Lewis and Holloway. 3 if you count Sander I guess, but I don't see him holding back Gray. Don't see anybody but Ross or Gray breaking through a redshirt personally.
LT- Clausell(6-7, 315, Jr), Justin Senior(6-5, 300, So)
LG-Gabe(6-4, 335, Sr), Ben Beckwith(6-3, 300, Jr)
C- Dillon(6-4, 295, Jr), Holley(6-3, 290, Sr)
RG- Justin Malone(6-7, 320, So), Muniz(6-5, 300, Jr)
RT- Siddoway(6-7, 305, Sr), Damien(6-8, 330, Jr)
1. Losing Tobias hurts, but I thought Malone did a good job, especially for a freshman. I really like our starting interior.
2.Our starting line is good overall(not world beaters, but good), but our backups, especially on the interior, worry me. Beckwith is probably the best of the bunch, but Muniz and Holley are both terrible. Injuries on the line could be worse than 2011.
3.Unless Cole Carter is better than I think he is, and he very may well be, I'm pretty sure we'll have to burn a redshirt on a tackle and we'll probably burn one on a guard regardless. I don't see Flowers or Thomas moving to the inside, but that our only option other then that is Clayborne. We really need to get Roderick Taylor or a similar guard in this years class if we ever want to improve our offensive line.
TE- MoJo(6-2, 235, Jr), Brandon Hill(6-2, 240, Jr)
RB- Perk(5-10, 195, Sr), Josh(5-9, 225, So)
QB- Tyler(6-5, 220, Sr), Dak(6-2, 230, So)
1.Everyone knows the QB situation by now. Cord needs to be undrafted or drafted at some certain time(Engie knows more specifics than I do. Too early is bad and too late is bad) if we want any depth at all, and Dak is currently booted up, which could be a good thing if it gets him a lot of time to work on his throwing before the season. Tyler's going to start, and we may finally have some receivers to help him out. Not all we need is for him to get a little better feet or for our OLine to give him a little more time.
2.RB doesn't really tell us anything but that the coaches like Josh better than Milton right now. How Griffin recovers will be huge, but for now I'm betting he'll come in behind Josh and in front of Milton, and it'll take him time and a good showing to get in front of Josh. Perk's #1 of course, but I'm hoping we rotate him out a bit more against the better defenses. Simply need bigger bodies. Not sure what we'll do with Shumpert. He's a great athlete, but unless Griffin doesn't recover well and Milton hasn't gotten any better from last season(especially with fumble issues), then we've got at least 3 good backs in front of him.
3.MoJo's #1, so that'll help our receiving game a lot. Especially considering he'll be there all season instead of us having to wait to see him until game 7. Brandon Hill is a solid back-up, but I really hope we get to see Rufus Warren in some blocking situations in the spring game. He's easily the biggest TE we've got, and we'll need some help on the edges to block Clowney and whatever other athletic freaks come out of the woodworks in SEC play.
DEFENSE
DE- Preston(6-6, 255, Jr), Ry. Brown(6-7, 260, So)
DT- Kaleb(6-4, 290, So), Nick(6-5, 345, So)
DT- PJ(6-4, 295, Jr), Virges(6-4, 315, Jr)
DE- Denico(6-5, 265, JR), AJ Jefferson(6-3, 260, Fr)
1. I like Preston(and Ryan and AJ for that matter), but Chris Jones looks prepped to start immediately. Heard from a friend of mine that went to school with him that he weighed in recently at 280 though, which scares the hell out of me. I do not want him moved to DT. We need some edge pressure.
2. Really happy with the move of Kaleb from DE to DT. Really fits him more, especially if he's gained 5-10 pounds from last season.
3. Nick and Quay really need to get their crap together. Eulls and PJ are good, but heaven help us if we need to ever need to put in Virges, Nelson, or Jordan Washington. Hoping Turner can work some magic here. We could have some really special on the DLine this year.
LB-Skinner(6-2, 250, Sr), Chris Hughes(6-1, 225, Sr)
LB-McKinney(6-5, 235, So), Bohanna(6-2, 225, Jr)
LB-Wells(6-2, 215, Jr), Zach Jackson(6-2 215, So)
1.I'm expecting us to be better in coverage and a little weaker in run support by trading Cam for Wells. McKinney and Skinner having another year to grow and get some experience.
2.Neither of the Browns made it into the 2-deep. I'm expecting the second string to be a revolving door, but they still won't get a lot of time this year unless Beniquez beats out Hughes/Jackson or Richie beats out Bohanna. I'm expecting Beniquez to take Skinner's spot after he leaves, and I hope he gets some good PT this year.
CB-Love(5-10, 175, Jr), Jiles(5-10, 185, So)
SS-Jay Hughes(5-11, 195, Jr), Market(5-10, 190, So)
FS-Nickoe(6, 205, Sr), Arrington(6-1, 215, Jr)
CB-Cox(6-3, 195, Jr), Redmond(6, 190, Fr)
1.I think the Corners are a good group. I might take a lot of flak for this, but Love is a good player and I think he'll play very well as a starter. Cox should be great from what we've heard, but I think he'll be here next year. From what I heard he's very fast, but out of shape, and has been working hard but suffering in the workouts. Redmond and Jiles will be need to be ready to sub in.
2.Scared of our safeties. Nickoe seems to have lost a step since his injury, and I hope he's retaken Geometry, because some his angles last season were horrendous. Jay Hughes has never given me the impression he needs to be a starter, but I don't know what else we can do. We won't start Arrington for some reason and I don't think any of Market, Quad or Evans is ready yet.
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Posted on 3/23/13 at 8:42 pm to LBC
Pretty good breakdown except for a couple of things:
1. We are going to RS Flowers and Thomas no matter what happens. Mullen is not going to play a true freshman on the OL. Damien Robinson is the 3rd OT and we'll play whomever as the other instead of playing a true freshman.
2. Mullen doesnt have alot of faith in our WR depth and plans to run alot more 2-TE sets. One of the reporters on twitter even made mention of it today
3. Chris Jones is all likelihood wont start 1 game in 2013. He will back up Denico and get his feet wet this season- playing 20 plays a game or so. He will then be ready to take that SDE spot over as a Soph. We dont start true freshmen- havent since 2010.
1. We are going to RS Flowers and Thomas no matter what happens. Mullen is not going to play a true freshman on the OL. Damien Robinson is the 3rd OT and we'll play whomever as the other instead of playing a true freshman.
2. Mullen doesnt have alot of faith in our WR depth and plans to run alot more 2-TE sets. One of the reporters on twitter even made mention of it today
3. Chris Jones is all likelihood wont start 1 game in 2013. He will back up Denico and get his feet wet this season- playing 20 plays a game or so. He will then be ready to take that SDE spot over as a Soph. We dont start true freshmen- havent since 2010.
Posted on 3/23/13 at 10:05 pm to CoonassBulldog
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1. We are going to RS Flowers and Thomas no matter what happens. Mullen is not going to play a true freshman on the OL. Damien Robinson is the 3rd OT and we'll play whomever as the other instead of playing a true freshman.
Except Justin Senior was a true freshman OT that played last year. Beyond our back-ups we have Damien, Senior(true so) and Carter(RsFr) at tackle. Beyond our starting interior we have Holley, Desper(RsFr), and Muniz. Other then that all of our lineman are walkons. If we get some injuries and he doesn't burn a redshirt I'd argue he's conceding the season.
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2. Mullen doesnt have alot of faith in our WR depth and plans to run alot more 2-TE sets. One of the reporters on twitter even made mention of it today
I like our receivers and I think they're a better overall group than last year. I do think we'll have some growing pains, but as the season goes along I think we'll get better in this regard. I have no problems with us running 2-TE sets, but I think we'll go to our receivers more as the year goes along.
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3. Chris Jones is all likelihood wont start 1 game in 2013. He will back up Denico and get his feet wet this season- playing 20 plays a game or so. He will then be ready to take that SDE spot over as a Soph. We dont start true freshmen- havent since 2010.
Except we started two last year.
And when was the last time we had a recruit of Chris Jones quality? Quay/Nick James are the closest things we've had since 2010, and both of them are headcases AND we were playing a DT that's about to get drafted. Not to mention we've changed our Defensive Line coach.
This post was edited on 3/23/13 at 10:07 pm
Posted on 3/24/13 at 12:06 am to LBC
Senior was a Hargrave guy- so that's basically a guy that's already redshirted. He had had an extra year to mature. We've got 10 guys on the OL for next year- they arent going to play Flowers or Thomas
I agree we may have more talent at WR- but our IQ at WR dropped alot. The plan is also to run the ball more this year (which I love), so thats also another reason for the 2 TE sets.
The coaches love Smith and Brown at DE- that's one of the reasons why Eulls is moving inside. As I said, they are planning for Jones to back up Autry- and that's where he will begin the season.
And when I said we dont start true freshmen- I meant at a real position. Kickers and snappers dont count- they arent real football players
I agree we may have more talent at WR- but our IQ at WR dropped alot. The plan is also to run the ball more this year (which I love), so thats also another reason for the 2 TE sets.
The coaches love Smith and Brown at DE- that's one of the reasons why Eulls is moving inside. As I said, they are planning for Jones to back up Autry- and that's where he will begin the season.
And when I said we dont start true freshmen- I meant at a real position. Kickers and snappers dont count- they arent real football players
This post was edited on 3/24/13 at 12:10 am
Posted on 3/24/13 at 12:28 am to LBC
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Quay/Nick James are the closest things we've had since 2010, and both of them are headcases
Evans looked good IMO in some of our early season, softer games. After that, he'd barely make it in during junk time. Where did he fall off?
Posted on 3/24/13 at 12:33 am to Hardy_Har
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Evans looked good IMO in some of our early season, softer games. After that, he'd barely make it in during junk time. Where did he fall off?
Quay and his mouth didnt mix well with Wilson.
Posted on 3/24/13 at 12:14 pm to CoonassBulldog
Yep...
If you look back at his participation chart, you will notice that he/James were "conspicuously absent" from several of the games the second half of the year.
Rumor had it that it was silent 1 game suspensions for not doing the little things right -- cussing Wilson, skipping class(despite a GA assigned to make sure they made it -- who they cussed and intimidated), etc...
Most indications are that they've straightened up a whole lot since they had to helplessly watch the Egg Bowl from the sidelines...
If you look back at his participation chart, you will notice that he/James were "conspicuously absent" from several of the games the second half of the year.
Rumor had it that it was silent 1 game suspensions for not doing the little things right -- cussing Wilson, skipping class(despite a GA assigned to make sure they made it -- who they cussed and intimidated), etc...
Most indications are that they've straightened up a whole lot since they had to helplessly watch the Egg Bowl from the sidelines...
Posted on 3/24/13 at 12:19 pm to LBC
On Sandberg...
The draft is June 6-8. Signing deadline is middle of July.
We need him to ideally go sometime in the top 10 rounds but not in the first 2 rounds. I'm worried that he's considered a "signability issue" and that causes him to drop to the 11th-15th round, where there is NO penalty to teams for drastically overpaying to get a player. So, while he can't get "first round money" in rounds 3-10, he absolutely can in round 11-50...
ETA: Manatee is 2-13 right now on the season, not that it necessarily means much for Sandberg -- other than the fact that he's on a terrible team and likely getting pitched around a ton...
The draft is June 6-8. Signing deadline is middle of July.
We need him to ideally go sometime in the top 10 rounds but not in the first 2 rounds. I'm worried that he's considered a "signability issue" and that causes him to drop to the 11th-15th round, where there is NO penalty to teams for drastically overpaying to get a player. So, while he can't get "first round money" in rounds 3-10, he absolutely can in round 11-50...
ETA: Manatee is 2-13 right now on the season, not that it necessarily means much for Sandberg -- other than the fact that he's on a terrible team and likely getting pitched around a ton...
This post was edited on 3/24/13 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 3/24/13 at 4:40 pm to engie
Great breakdown of the depth chart. My roommate is the Clarion Ledger intern this semester and has been going to spring practice.
According to him Nick James has looked lazy and just doesn't care much. Eulls being moved to DL is great. Quay and Jordan Washington have made strides. Like the linebacker positions, I think the 2's for the D-line will be a rotating door. Denico and Preston will be good starters. CJ, Ryan, and AJ will make solid subs.
At Saturday's practice Redmond and Cox started at corners with Jiles and Love rotating in. Redmond and Cox in together gives us great size and length. I can almost bet that coaches will stick with Redmond and Cox starting.
Also at practice, Les and Dan have been abusing double TE sets. Be prepared to see a lot of passes in the flats to guys like Holmes and Malcolm. While more mid-range passes will be headed to Rufus. Rufus has become quite the receiver according to coaches and reporters. He has figured out how to use the good frame, wingspan, and hands that he contains.
My thoughts on the wide receivers is that obviously we lack experience. Obviously it might take a game or two to fix the tweaks. However, the group of kids we have have A LOT of potential. We have a wide range of height, muscle, and quickness.
Our starting offensive line is pretty dang big. Hopefully injuries won't happen this coming season. I disagree that our second string interior line sucks. Muniz has had injury problems, but that doesn't mean he sucks. Muniz is known to be unmovable to D-lineman. Guy has tree trunks for legs and holds his ground better than most. Dylan Holley hasn't been proven because Day is ahead of him, tough to beat. Still doesn't make him bad. Beckwith is probably the best of the three, and he can move around at both guard positions. Also noted from my roommate, Devon Desper has been practicing at guard as well as center. Coaches feel as if he can be used at both positions due to his progress. Always good to hear. Cole Carter gets man-handled in practice, the end.
Hail State
According to him Nick James has looked lazy and just doesn't care much. Eulls being moved to DL is great. Quay and Jordan Washington have made strides. Like the linebacker positions, I think the 2's for the D-line will be a rotating door. Denico and Preston will be good starters. CJ, Ryan, and AJ will make solid subs.
At Saturday's practice Redmond and Cox started at corners with Jiles and Love rotating in. Redmond and Cox in together gives us great size and length. I can almost bet that coaches will stick with Redmond and Cox starting.
Also at practice, Les and Dan have been abusing double TE sets. Be prepared to see a lot of passes in the flats to guys like Holmes and Malcolm. While more mid-range passes will be headed to Rufus. Rufus has become quite the receiver according to coaches and reporters. He has figured out how to use the good frame, wingspan, and hands that he contains.
My thoughts on the wide receivers is that obviously we lack experience. Obviously it might take a game or two to fix the tweaks. However, the group of kids we have have A LOT of potential. We have a wide range of height, muscle, and quickness.
Our starting offensive line is pretty dang big. Hopefully injuries won't happen this coming season. I disagree that our second string interior line sucks. Muniz has had injury problems, but that doesn't mean he sucks. Muniz is known to be unmovable to D-lineman. Guy has tree trunks for legs and holds his ground better than most. Dylan Holley hasn't been proven because Day is ahead of him, tough to beat. Still doesn't make him bad. Beckwith is probably the best of the three, and he can move around at both guard positions. Also noted from my roommate, Devon Desper has been practicing at guard as well as center. Coaches feel as if he can be used at both positions due to his progress. Always good to hear. Cole Carter gets man-handled in practice, the end.
Hail State
Posted on 3/25/13 at 2:51 pm to engie
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him to drop to the 11th-15th round, where there is NO penalty to teams for drastically overpaying to get a player. So, while he can't get "first round money" in rounds 3-10, he absolutely can in round 11-50...
That isn't correct. If a player is drafted after the 10th round and is paid over 100k then it counts towards their draft pool.
If he goes after the 10th he is coming to school.
If he is drafted before the 10th they can swing their bonus pool around depending on how many seniors/easy signs there are and get him the money he wants.
Posted on 3/25/13 at 4:45 pm to schlow mo
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That isn't correct. If a player is drafted after the 10th round and is paid over 100k then it counts towards their draft pool.
You are right.
My info on the(after 10th round stuff) is incorrect -- based on only the first 10 rounds counting against the draft pool. Overpaid players from 10-40th also count against it, which is great for us...and something I hadn't realized before. Thanks for finding that...
Cord is going to require first round money to go pro. This is directly from his dad. I don't think he's telling "everybody" that because he wants Cord to get drafted at his true value -- but he's certainly telling MSU people this. People look at his every public statement as "reason he isn't coming" -- when all he's doing is playing the game.
I find it pretty telling that his highschool is 2-13 in baseball -- yet a national power in football. For everything he's said or done that points to baseball, there is something else still pointing to football.
I still say -- right now -- that it's an 80% chance Cord is at MSU in the fall. Whether or not he ever plays baseball for us? I don't pretend to know...
Posted on 3/26/13 at 9:51 am to CoonassBulldog
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3. Chris Jones is all likelihood wont start 1 game in 2013. He will back up Denico and get his feet wet this season- playing 20 plays a game or so. He will then be ready to take that SDE spot over as a Soph. We dont start true freshmen- havent since 2010.
I know you think you know everything, and you may very well be correct, but we haven't had a Chris Jones before. Until we see how he reports to fall camp and his progressions, no one can say this for sure. We just don't know. Mullen doesn't know. No one knows.
This post was edited on 3/26/13 at 9:57 am
Posted on 3/26/13 at 2:20 pm to engie
No problem, you are quite knowledgable on the new CBA. I have a vested interest in knowing this information.
From what I know from afar I would be surprised if Cord didn't end up at State. I see him either working out an Alford type deal and signing for enough money and playing baseball in the summers while still playing college football, or coming to State and playing both.
I don't think he will get drafted where he wants for first round money to sign him away from football.
From what I know from afar I would be surprised if Cord didn't end up at State. I see him either working out an Alford type deal and signing for enough money and playing baseball in the summers while still playing college football, or coming to State and playing both.
I don't think he will get drafted where he wants for first round money to sign him away from football.
Posted on 3/26/13 at 2:59 pm to CoonassBulldog
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Quay and his mouth didnt mix well with Wilson
Which makes me very worried about how he will mix with Turner who seems to me hard nosed and less of a players coach than Wilson.
I hope iM wrong.
Posted on 3/26/13 at 3:55 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
If he doesn't mesh well with Turner then it's on Quay not Turner. I never remember Turner having any problems with players during his last stint here.
Seems to me like Quay needs to get his head out of his arse and MTFU.
Seems to me like Quay needs to get his head out of his arse and MTFU.
Posted on 3/26/13 at 4:07 pm to Requiem For A Dawg
FWIW, although Quay wasn't listed on the 2-deep spring depth chart, PJ said that he was taking the 2nd team snaps in practice last week. If he wants to, meaning if he grows up and puts forth the effort, he could work his way into a starting spot before the end of the season.
With his talent, Quay could potentially be a future 1st-rounder, but his career could also fizzle out before it even gets started. That is up to Quay. Hopefully Turner can figure out a way to light a fire under his arse.
With his talent, Quay could potentially be a future 1st-rounder, but his career could also fizzle out before it even gets started. That is up to Quay. Hopefully Turner can figure out a way to light a fire under his arse.
Posted on 3/26/13 at 4:08 pm to dawgM2
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With his talent, Quay could potentially be a future 1st-rounder, but his career could also fizzle out before it even gets started. That is up to Quay. Hopefully Turner can figure out a way to light a fire under his arse.
Same could be said about James too.
Posted on 3/26/13 at 4:12 pm to Requiem For A Dawg
agreed... James is a mammoth but still very athletic for his size. I left out that he also took some 2nd team snaps last week.
ETA: today was supposed to be the first day in pads, but it was pushed back to tomorrow.
Is it football season yet?
ETA: today was supposed to be the first day in pads, but it was pushed back to tomorrow.
Is it football season yet?
This post was edited on 3/26/13 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 3/26/13 at 4:25 pm to Tds & Beer
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I know you think you know everything, and you may very well be correct, but we haven't had a Chris Jones before. Until we see how he reports to fall camp and his progressions, no one can say this for sure. We just don't know. Mullen doesn't know. No one knows.
I just told you what the plan was for him. Could that change? Absolutely, however it is just hard for a true freshman to start on the OL or DL in SEC football. Jadaveon Clowney didnt start as a true freshman and he is the best DE talent we have seen in a long time.
As much of a talent as Jones is- he is very raw. Which is another way of saying "he just gets by on talent- his fundamentals are shite." He can do that in HS- he cant do that in the SEC. He will get exposed early until he gets better fundamentally.
Posted on 3/26/13 at 4:30 pm to CoonassBulldog
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Jadaveon Clowney didnt start as a true freshman and he is the best DE talent we have seen in a long time.
He didn't start? Serious question. I thought he did. He had 12 tackles for loss.
This post was edited on 3/26/13 at 4:33 pm
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