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Posted on 12/14/24 at 7:42 pm
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
96555 posts
Posted on 12/14/24 at 7:42 pm
I just don’t see it. QB transferring, leading WR transferred. We have no SEC level talent otherwise. Couldn’t pull Jackson Arnold even though Lebby recruited him to OU.

Lebby with his offense can’t even keep our decent offensive players. We have nothing on defense. This is a complete disaster. No SEC talent will come here because we don’t have the NIL money. Boosters aren’t opening their wallets and our AD seems nonexistent, typical of a DEI hire.

Are we simply done in football and relegated to Vandy status? I’m not sure we can compete in the NIL era. Either we focus on basketball and baseball or we look at switching to conferences we can compete in like the Big 12. SEC is a behemoth and I just don’t think we have the money support to compete. We likely go winless in conference next season and will be coach searching again, but I think Lebby is a decent coach. We won’t get anyone better without a real NIL initiative, but we simply don’t have 20 million a year from boosters to blow on football players that won’t stay longer than a year
Posted by Hardy_Har
MS
Member since Nov 2012
16295 posts
Posted on 12/15/24 at 1:18 pm to
Teams that entered this football season on "built" years are gapping teams that need rebuilding. Coach died at the absolute worst time headed into this NIL shitshow.

Cash is the only thing that can offset lack of success at this point, so by the math we'd need 4x more NIL money to be an 8 win or better team ha.

Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
96555 posts
Posted on 12/15/24 at 5:35 pm to
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so by the math we'd need 4x more NIL money to be an 8 win or better team ha.


Which we won’t get. It sucks but I’m afraid NIL has sent us back to Croom years and we may be stuck here
Posted by clayking
Florida
Member since Sep 2019
306 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 11:36 am to
Other than the few Prescott years we are rarely better than below average in the SEC with or without NIL. Don’t ever see it changing. I hate this NIL/portal crap with a passion and me giving money “again” to scholarship players other than a small supplement is never gonna happen. Many don’t want a university education, they all just want money and a shot at the NFL. The portal tells one that. Hard to blame the players as I do understand their motivation, but don’t expect me to reward it for a game, rather spend it on myself or family.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
60734 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 4:26 pm to
Leach's passing is costing us dearly.

I really don't know all the rules with this NIL but if we can't supplement ours with SEC revenue, we're doomed. There is zero way possible to keep up with Texas with about 3x the NIL money.

We need a serious upgrade on the Defensive side of the ball starting with coaching. At this point maybe all of our NIL money should go to baseball, something we would be able to actually compete in.

at this rate, I just hope it all implodes but it won't as long as the super schools like Michigan, OSU, Texas, Bama, will have the alumni willingly throw money around like they are.
Posted by HotRock
Starkville,MS
Member since Aug 2018
524 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 5:42 am to
Things are changing and it’s not all bad for State:

The Guys we lost in portal, were replaced with similar or better talent.

Then look at the signing class., 18 HS.. none of these guys are two star cell players that filled Crooms classes. All of them are legit. Sure no five stars but we got few of those anyway. The floor of the HS talent is better than years past.

Another detail JUCOs. They get four years now. We signed ten. Even great JuCo players like Montez Sweat were only here a minute now get a full career and they are older.

Mississippi has one of the best JuCo systems in the country. State got some of the best JuCo’s at positions of need.

And, if we miss on too many.. portal brings in some help.

State has a path to be better than ever before but… so does every Big Ten And SEC TEAM. Those and the teams with m lots of $$$ like SMU & Miami.

Not sure what it means but State has 3 QBs on the roster that are as talented as any group we have ever had.

Thing is: SEC is tough with so many good teams but I don’t see any great ones that can’t be beaten.

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