Does Pirtle's move go down as the most idiotic play in State's baseball history?

Nope

There have been plenty before and plenty worse to come. Luckily it didn't cost us the game though and he redeemed with a few defensive plays.

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Does Pirtle's move go down as the most idiotic play in State's baseball history?

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HECK NO

He thought the OF bobbled the ball, and he was being aggresssive trying to help us win the game.

We ended up winning end of story, and nobody will remember or talk about that play.

I blame Mizzou for handling the baseball like some B League church softball team. He was confused.

It was more of a hyperbole. Just wanted to ignite some conversation on our dead board.

Mingione "doing nothing" means something. It means to round the base and pick up the ball -- exactly how you would round first and pick up the ball on a single. It does not mean to break for the plate...which is why Mingione was so pissed when Pirtle went.

An early stop sign in that situation means to stop on the base with no turn -- the throw is probably coming in behind you.

It's not as simple as "go or stay" -- there is actually 4-5 different signals from a 3B coach that all mean different things...

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I am well aware of this but NM never told him to get back from what I saw.

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He doesn't have to. When he "does nothing" it becomes a read play -- and essentially the baserunner is supposed to pick up the ball and be on their own.

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Also, with the ball hit to RF the coach needs to be directing him on what to do, not telling him to find the ball since the ball is coming in from behind him.

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Again, this is not correct. The coach doing that is "directing" the player on exactly what to do.

Does a first base coach have to tell a player to "hold up" on a single to left field? No. They round the bag and find the ball. A 3B coach doing nothing is, again, the exact same thing. It presumes that you are rounding the bag, but not even close to scoring on the play -- unless there's a mistake make somewhere in getting the ball back to the pitcher, which is something that happens in front of the runner and reliant on his own read. Again, the 3b coach's responsibility ends when the player touches 3B -- except in the instance where he's wheeling him home but backing up down the baseline beside him. In that scenario, it lets the player know that it's going to be close -- and the coach maintains the ability to throw up the stop sign until the last possible moment. In every other scenario, what happens is on the player from the moment they touch the bag forward...

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I'm not saying it was NM's fault necessarily, I just stated what I saw and I didn't see him giving any hand signals. He may have been telling BP to go halfway and Brett just ignored him or didn't hear/see him.

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Once a player actually rounds the bag and picks up the ball, he becomes blind to the coach -- hence why it becomes a read play if the coach isn't wheeling him home -- or giving him a distinct stop sign wanting him to stop on the base...

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Mingione froze. Players weren't very happy

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That's still Pirtle's mistake -- but maybe they can share the blame. Can't assume you are scoring when a coach isn't wheeling you home. In that scenario, better safe than sorry..