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Posted on 7/28/12 at 4:39 pm to umrebel2009
Posted on 7/28/12 at 4:39 pm to umrebel2009
Did I say any of that? No, I said there is possibility it will be improved. As I already stated IMO Clausell is more talented than Carmon and will at least be serviceable enough this year.
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Posted on 7/28/12 at 4:42 pm to umrebel2009
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Well if one player gets better between his freshmen and sophomore year then all players at that position obviously will, good point.
Name a freshman tackle that State or OM has gotten that had major success early in the SEC?
Sherrod wasn't good until his (true) JR year. He was terrible in 07 and 08. A bunch of our fans were giving him the Bradley Sowell treatment after the '08 Egg Bowl. Then '09 arrives and he looks like a 4* LT, '10 arrives and he looks like a first round LT. It's a crying shame that he didn't get a redshirt year(thanks Croom), giving us the opportunity to bring him back last year(not saying he would or wouldn't have).
Almost NO player that State and OM gets on the OL is ready physically for SEC play prior to their 3rd year on campus. This is proven over and over and over again, due to lack of HS development in MS. We have ONE person on our OL 2-deep now that is younger than a rsSO, and Tobias Smith is the only sr. We have 7 rs SO on our two deep. We've recruited well on the OL, redshirted everyone, and the rewards for this will start to become apparent next season, when the '10 class is rs JRs.
The only reason we're having this discussion is because Croom didn't bother recruiting OL in '08 or '09. Got 1 contributor from each of those classes, then Mullen whiffed(until the '12 class) on JUCO recruiting to fill the void.
Posted on 7/28/12 at 5:04 pm to engie
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Name a freshman tackle that State or OM has gotten that had major success early in the SEC?
Sherrod wasn't good until his (true) JR year. He was terrible in 07 and 08. A bunch of our fans were giving him the Bradley Sowell treatment after the '08 Egg Bowl. Then '09 arrives and he looks like a 4* LT, '10 arrives and he looks like a first round LT. It's a crying shame that he didn't get a redshirt year(thanks Croom), giving us the opportunity to bring him back last year(not saying he would or wouldn't have).
Almost NO player that State and OM gets on the OL is ready physically for SEC play prior to their 3rd year on campus. This is proven over and over and over again, due to lack of HS development in MS. We have ONE person on our OL 2-deep now that is younger than a rsSO, and Tobias Smith is the only sr. We have 7 rs SO on our two deep. We've recruited well on the OL, redshirted everyone, and the rewards for this will start to become apparent next season, when the '10 class is rs JRs.
The only reason we're having this discussion is because Croom didn't bother recruiting OL in '08 or '09. Got 1 contributor from each of those classes, then Mullen whiffed(until the '12 class) on JUCO recruiting to fill the void.
You basically made my point for me. My point was you're replacing Carmon with a sophomore and think your OL will get better, and you come back with the argument that Sherrod sucked until his Junior year. Clausell may end up being a good OL one day but I doubt he'll be that good this year
Posted on 7/28/12 at 5:15 pm to umrebel2009
Point is he will possibly be improved this year. So yes there is a possibility our OL will be improved. 
Posted on 7/28/12 at 6:52 pm to umrebel2009
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You basically made my point for me. My point was you're replacing Carmon with a sophomore and think your OL will get better, and you come back with the argument that Sherrod sucked until his Junior year. Clausell may end up being a good OL one day but I doubt he'll be that good this year
Made your point for you? No. I added the rsSO there for a reason.
Sherrod was a true jr = 3rd year.
Clausell is a rs so = 3rd year.
Clausell will be good this year, much better than anything we saw at LT last season. Probably not Sherrod good, but much better than Carmon ever was.
Posted on 7/28/12 at 7:38 pm to engie
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Sherrod was a true jr = 3rd year.
Clausell is a rs so = 3rd year.
Sherrod was a true junior meaning he had 2 years of game experience under his belt before he was good his 3rd year, Clausell redshirted his freshmen year and has only had 1 year of game experience. Surely you realize a whole year of in game experience will make a big difference
Posted on 7/28/12 at 11:38 pm to umrebel2009
Carmon was a DT his junior year, did i miss something or did he become a badass LT between his junior and senior year? Seems like he can be replaced. So where is the drop in productivity on the OL for the upcoming fall? The bears seem to be lurking and reaching hard lately.
This post was edited on 7/28/12 at 11:40 pm
Posted on 7/28/12 at 11:54 pm to AsphaltFunk
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Carmon was a DT his junior year, did i miss something or did he become a badass LT between his junior and senior year? Seems like he can be replaced. So where is the drop in productivity on the OL for the upcoming fall? The bears seem to be lurking and reaching hard lately.
I tried to use that argument before last season to point out how your OL was going to suck, but according to Bundy and Cornass and others he played LT in highschool and did in fact become a badass LT between his junior and senior year.
And apparently Carmon was better with an injured knee than Clausell 100% healthy
Posted on 7/29/12 at 12:02 am to umrebel2009
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I tried to use that argument before last season to point out how your OL was going to suck, but according to Bundy and Cornass and others he played LT in highschool and did in fact become a badass LT between his junior and senior year. And apparently Carmon was better with an injured knee than Clausell 100% healthy
I am beyond measure of fricked up but found this hilarious
Posted on 7/29/12 at 4:40 pm to Whereisomaha
Will y'all quit bitching. we are not going to have a great OL and everyone knows that but we will be just fine
Posted on 7/29/12 at 4:59 pm to MSU4ever
Did Devin Voorhies commit to LSU?
Posted on 7/29/12 at 5:45 pm to LBC
Posted on 7/29/12 at 8:26 pm to TigerMoose
He's going to flip though its alright.
Posted on 7/30/12 at 3:02 am to MSU4ever
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Will y'all quit bitching. we are not going to have a great OL and everyone knows that but we will be just fine
I think you guys will be OK at OL this year.
And if you rank adjectives of positions in the SEC, OK puts you right around the 6-7th in the conference IMHO.
Posted on 7/30/12 at 11:12 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
Could be a commitment or two this week
Posted on 7/30/12 at 11:14 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
Who ya thinking Bundy?
Posted on 7/30/12 at 11:26 am to croomdawggie
Ulric and Jake?
Posted on 7/30/12 at 12:05 pm to Whereisomaha
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Whereisomaha
I need help making my bowtie tighter. What gives.
Posted on 7/30/12 at 12:06 pm to Tds & Beer
Pull out bruh
Posted on 7/30/12 at 12:25 pm to Whereisomaha
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Ulric and Jake?
Shelby Christy and Ulric
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