Watching OSU, 2 things come to mind

Barrett's solid if it's down the field, not so much when it's close. He made some amazing throws early on in the game exactly where they should have been.

That being said, I'm really excited. Mullen is beating the streets, and I hope he can end up flipping some 'cruits and then do a makeover of our entire team.

Wisconsin is always boring and conservative. I try to watch their games and fall asleep after a minute. It's so freaking boring.

Mullen's not a good recruiter because he can't bring top talent to MSU? No one can bring top talent to MSU. People can do it at USF because USF is actually in a hot bed for recruiting -- even Oregon can at least get scraps nearby.

MSU is basically fighting A&M, LSU (Title winner), Auburn (Title winner) and Alabama (Title winner). You would be fortunate to even get in the top 20 for recruiting classes because MSU has never been really good. They had a few good years that none of the recruits were alive for.

His class is sitting at #13 this year, and really I don't know how you expect him to sell MSU, so sell MSU for me.

What are some good things about MSU?

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Arkansas had no problems under petrino with the same issues as state.

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Bro, did you even see the 2012 season? If not for his stupid antics off-field, he would have had a serious downward spiral.

2012 Arkansas went 4 - 8 with a loss to Louisiana Monroe, blowout losses to Alabama (59 - 0), a blowout loss to A&M (58 - 10), and a blowout loss to MSU (45 - 14).

He left Arkansas in terrible shape and they got beaten by many teams after he went.

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Meyer had none at Utah.

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He was there for two years, and Mullen was his OC??

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Herman went 6-3 vs the top 25 beating Oklahoma and FSU.

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He also lost to SMU, Navy and Memphis with a blowout loss to San Diego State his last year at Houston. GOOD COACHES DON'T FLUCTUATE.

He lost to Maryland this year -- Maryland is 4 - 8.

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Same for Kelly at oregon

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Wow, you mean the same Kelly who got Oregon hit with sanctions and bailed to the NFL where he was a miserable failure and was fired from two straight jobs?

When you're right, it's only by virtue of fortune -- because you don't know diggity dogshit about what you're talking about. No research whatsoever. All of those coaches had severely poor outcomes.

Petrino's team turned to dogshit one year after he left and was blown out of the water.

Meyer has dropped several bad games.

Herman lost to some terrible teams.

What other coaches do you have with good records at lesser schools? Dying to hear it.

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It'll be interesting to see what Mullen can do with UF's resources, but IMO, the time of the gator has passed for now. It will be years again before UF is any good.

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That might be a little premature. If Mullen comes in with a different offense and we still can't get anything going we're cursed.

However -- we're in a very, very good spot.

We're starting with three teams at home next year -- all very beatable -- with enough time to implement his offense or at least get a good idea of how good it is.

Then we travel to Tennessee which is in complete disarray, losing recruits with an HC that's never been an HC before.

Then we go to MSU, again, with an HC who has never been an HC in division 1. (He had a good stint at Fordham) This is probably the hardest game we'll have next year because they'll be out for blood.

LSU is losing Guice, and honestly if we almost beat them this year it should be a shoein next year.

Vanderbilt is Vanderbilt.

Georgia is going to collapse under their expectations. They will take a step back after losing 90% of their defensive starters and their best WR and best RBs.

Missouri scares me more than Georgia, just because our offense still might be light depth wise and Missouri can move the ball pretty well.

Then we get South Carolina -- again, a team that needed a miracle to beat one of the most depleted Florida teams of all time.

Then Idaho.

Then finally FSU, which...who knows what they'll look like?

Our rival Tennessee is gutted, FSU just lost the best coach they had for years, Georgia is going to lose the vast majority of their starters and we just brought back a championship winning OC.

This is a good time for us, but like I said: Mullen fails, we're just cursed.

I agree the 2018 schedule is a joke. That home schedule is pathetic. As for your ramblings Lol at comparing John L Smith to Bobby Petrino

UF was 4-7 last year. They stink. The defense stinks, the special teams stink, and the offense stinks.

They are soft and weak.

The team's depth will be near 0 at a lot of key positions.

Most importantly, UF still doesn't have a QB.

They are completely changing their offensive and defensive systems.

UF could lose against any team on the schedule next year except for charleston southern and idaho.

The situation could get worse before it gets better.

Mullen is not Mac/Nuss

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Hung with Bama and skulldrug LSU

With MSST talent

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Mcelwain will go down as the worst UF HC in modern history

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Muschamp begs to differ.

You can't leave a guy with two quarterbacks -- one who is actually serviceable, no offensive line and no kicker and say that the guy afterward was the worst.

Muschamp was literally what put us here in the first place with his outrageously bad recruiting on the offensive side of the ball and his incapacity to manage a roster.