re: Vegas Odds on QB battle

Its the perfect movie, you have Neidlemeyer as the a-hole ROTC Nazi commando, Dean Woermer who is easy to hate, young pretty sorority girls who are only interested in straight, clean cut all American frats, the collection of misfits in Belushis group and "Flounder" who has his brothers new car slightly altered, a horse that meets fate and an all black nightclub that is a classic.

Hey, my response was to inform Straws WHY I used the analogy that the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor because he thought I didn't realize it was Japan.

There is reason Trask’s odds of starting are so profitable. No body who is willing to bet money actually believes the guy will start .

You could get ride of this TJ if you actually believe Trask would be the starter . But you know Franks is the favorite to start even if you don’t like him . He must not be to bad because you still sound confident that the team will be much better then expected .

Why didn’t Trask start for his high school team . Wasn’t it that they ran a offense that needed a athletic QB ?

Is this actually something I can put some money on? Or just a made up Vegas thing for people to talk about. If it’s reall I am seriously thinking of putting 500 dollars down on Trask.

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You might wanna save that $500. Below is an article by Chris Harry who is EMPLOYED by UF, and although he writes fluff articles, he IS closer, much closer to the team and coaches than any media member. He obviously thinks Franks will be the starter.

Charleston Southern, just 38 days away.

Time for our "Countdown to Camp" series previewing the position groupings on offense, defense and special teams, as the Gators look to bounce back from a 4-7 season marred by another unproductive offense, some frustrating and close midseason losses, and a coaching change.

What better place to start than under center?

QUARTERBACKS

They're back: Feleipe Franks (6-5, 227, R-Sophomore); Kyle Trask (6-5, 239, R-Sophomore).

Fresh faces: Emory Jones (6-2, 192, Freshman).

Feleipe Franks completed 54.6 percent of his throws for 1,438 yards, nine touchdowns and eight interceptions as a redshirt freshman in 2017.

Overview: The Gators used three quarterbacks (and started three) last season. The overall results and inability to field a quality passing attack was pretty much on par with what the program has showed since saying goodbye to Tim Tebow eight seasons ago, as Florida finished last in the Southeastern Conference it total offense and 110th in the nation in 2017 at just 335.9 yards per game, including 102nd in passing (179.5 ypg). Franks won the job as a redshirt freshman by out-performing fourth-year junior Luke Del Rio and Malik Zaire, the Notre Dame grad transfer, during the preseason. He eventually was replaced by Del Rio, who lasted one start before suffering a season-ending shoulder injury. Another candidate, Trask, broke his foot in the preseason and was done for the year. Trask definitely would have gotten a look, but wasn't cleared medically until the season was over. Fast forward to the spring. Jones was a four-star prospect who flipped from a commitment to Ohio State, signed early with the Gators and enrolled for the spring semester. Now, there are just three QBs on scholarship on the entire roster, after Del Rio graduated and freshman Jake Allen transferred to Dartmouth during the offseason. So, Franks is far and away the most experienced of the three, and the only QB with any collegiate statistics. In eight starts, Franks completed 125 of 229 passes (54.6 percent) for 1,438 yards, nine touchdowns and eight interceptions. As everyone saw at times (certainly against Tennessee), the arm strength stands out. Case in point: Mullen was mic'd up for a spring practice when he saw Franks, under pressure, scramble from the pocket, slip to his right and — off balance and off his back foot — flip a bomb downfield that wideout Van Jefferson caught for a touchdown. Perfect throw. Mullen covered his mouth and remarked to an assistant, "He just threw that 50 yards!" Mullen recruited Franks to Mississippi State. In fact, the Bulldogs were the second to offer Franks after Clemson, so there is familiarity there beyond what Mullen learned in the spring. The biggest thing for Franks, and what will be an ongoing topic through training camp and on into the season, will be his trust and comfort level in the offensive line. Can he get to a point where he can go through progressions (at least more than one), and not feel so much pressure that he's taking the first read or just taking off to run when nothing's there? Though Franks was billed as a classic dropback/pocket passer, he is an underrated runner, demonstrated by that electrifying 78-yard jaunt against Texas A&M (the longest run by a UF quarterback in program history). In Mullen's spread offense, mobility and throwing on the run will be pivotal. Those were traits Trask was thought to maybe hold on edge, but the only live bullets he has faced since arriving at Florida are in scrimmages and spring games — and no one is hitting QBs in those settings. Trask, in fact, hasn't seen much of any football at any level, having sat behind D'Eriq King (now starting at the University of Houston) his entire prep career in Texas. He has good size and arm strength, but basically no resume. Jones also has mobility, but showed during the spring he is far from a polished passer, especially when it comes to accuracy.

Kyle Trask redshirted during both the 2016 and '17 seasons, the latter due to a foot injury, but got the bulk of the backup reps in the spring.

If the season started today: Franks is the overwhelming favorite to be under center when the Gators line up against Charleston Southern, barring an injury or what would have to be considered unforeseen circumstances. An example of the latter would be a monumental spurt in development from either Trask or Jones during the four weeks of camp that would have to overtake what Franks brings to the table, especially on the experience front.

Straws how much do you blame facilities for our recruiting problems. I mean have you seen our athletic dorms? When you compare our dorms to Clemson and Bama, its like army barracks going up against the Ritz Carlton.

There will be way too much hand wringing and teeth gnashing before NSD...it will drink me to drive

Straws I don't care who the QB is. I like razing your butt though with clickbait.

You hold that article about practice day 1 near and dear to your heart, cause no one knows what Mullen will do. But just remember last year when everyone on this board were yelling to the rooftop that they didn't want Del Rio and wanted Franks..and I was loud and clear that Franks wasn't ready...he was too skinny and we needed Del Rio's experience.

If Mullen decides walk on Erit Von Sondman from Iceland is the starter...then I would be ok until proven otherwise.

I am more concerned with how do we jump to top 15 in rushing stats from 75th? That will be the barometer of how we did. Mullen likes to pound the ball and I am all for it. We threw way too many deep passes last year and the play calling did not help. No matter who our QB is, facing too many 3rd and longs will make them look awful.


I know folks don't look at big pictures...but just think what could have been last year: 4 more total points against LSU & A&M, lack of drama with Mac and we could have been 10-2. The team gave up just before the WLOCP.

But we didn't, he did, and they did and the result was 4-7.

Straws, I have stated in generic terms, everybody wanted Franks... it doesn't imply that you did. You are not everyone...you are special and Straws is one of favorite posters...although bull headed at times