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The importance of a good transition class.
Posted on 1/29/18 at 7:42 pm
Posted on 1/29/18 at 7:42 pm
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We looked at the first recruiting classes of the 14 Power Five schools that changed coaches in 2014-15 and compared them to their second classes. Year 1 fared significantly worse in two key areas.
Almost a quarter (24 percent) of a staff's first class left, either because they transferred, quit or got into off-field trouble. That figure from a staff's second class: 15.6 percent.
While it's admittedly subjective to determine whether a player was a success, Year 1 recruits were less likely to become impact players. More than half (57 percent) of coaches' first classes developed into starters, top reserves or notable role players. That's 10 percentage points lower than Year 2.
To see how detrimental a poor first class can be, look no farther than Gainesville; Jim McElwain's 2015 class had the highest miss rate in our analysis. Those recruits combined for zero offensive touches and only 40 starts last season during the Gators' 4-7 flop.
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look back at Jim McElwain's inaugural Gators class (2015, using 247Sports' composite rankings) and its production from last season.
5* OL Martez Ivey: Started every game, earned second-team all-SEC honors at left tackle
5* DE Cece Jefferson: Led Gators in tackles for loss (13 ½) and sacks (4 ½)
4* RB Jordan Scarlett: Did not play (suspension)
4* WR Antonio Callaway: Did not play (suspension)
4* RB D'Anfernee McGriff: Did not play (transfer)
3* RB Jordan Cronkrite: Did not play (transfer to USF)
3* OL Tyler Jordan: Started four games, appeared in all 11
3* CB Chris Williamson: Did not play (transfer)
3* TE Daniel Imatorbhebhe: Did not play (transfer)
3* DE Jabari Zuniga: Six starts, 34 tackles
3* OL Brandon Saandifer: Did not play (transfer)
3* TE Camrin Knight: Did not play (transfer)
3* LB Kylan Johnson: Played in seven games, 17 tackles in injury-plagued season
3* WR Kalif Jackson: Did not play (transfer)
3* DL Andrew Ivie: Did not play (injured)
3* DE Keivonnis Davis: Did not play (suspension)
3* DL Richerd Desir-Jones: Did not play (suspension)
3* OL Fred Johnson: 10 starts at right guard
3* OL Nick Buchanan: Appeared in one game
3* LB Rayshad Jackson: 14 tackles as a reserve
3* DE Luke Ancrum: 4 tackles as a reserve
I knew that class sucked but
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 8:47 pm to TJGator1215
Definitely need to finish strong and address needs. I think we are going to get there, there seems to be a lot of confidence with the guys left on the board.
Meyer's first class was actually pretty bad as far as contributions. Ranked nicely for a transition year, but didn't get a whole lot out of it. Of course he walked into a pretty great situation so it didn't ultimately matter all that much.
Meyer's first class was actually pretty bad as far as contributions. Ranked nicely for a transition year, but didn't get a whole lot out of it. Of course he walked into a pretty great situation so it didn't ultimately matter all that much.
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 9:19 pm to bgator85
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he walked into a pretty great situation so it didn't ultimately matter all that much.
It's nice when the guy before you actually recruits.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 1:41 am to TJGator1215
Oddly, that class is still better than Meyer's first class ended up being. That class had very little in it worth talking about.
No way to know how the class will turn up. It looks good so far. Especially if we land NPF, Copeland, and Gour. Those three should end up being very good players.
No way to know how the class will turn up. It looks good so far. Especially if we land NPF, Copeland, and Gour. Those three should end up being very good players.
Posted on 1/30/18 at 8:29 pm to TJGator1215
Looks like half of the class was suspended. While Mac struggled in recruiting his offense coaching is what got the staff fired .
Posted on 1/31/18 at 8:13 am to tjv305
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Looks like half of the class was suspended. While Mac struggled in recruiting his offense coaching is what got the staff fired .
That and the whole death threats thing.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 6:00 am to BloodSweat&Beers
When you look at our skill position players next year..you HAVE to really be excited about the potential.
WRs like Copeland, maybe Justin if he isn't switched to defense, Jefferson, Grimes and Toney along with deep threat Campbell are going to wreck havoc on defenses. I watched a lot of the 2006 team last night and watched how Mullen got the ball to playmakers..awesome schemes and we just broke the spirit of our foes and worn them out. A lot of screens and reverse trick plays that just made teams look foolish.
Toney could be our Harvin if he gains a little weight and hits the exercise drills relentless. He is flashier than Harvin imo and difficult to tackle...but needs some strength. Copeland may be another play maker who changes games and picks up first downs with those good hands.
Know one thing....WRs are gonna duke it out for playing time. Competition will be good. We may have the tools to be in the top 40 offense and although that is not great, after our miserable 2010-17 showings I'll take it. Fans are starved for offense
WRs like Copeland, maybe Justin if he isn't switched to defense, Jefferson, Grimes and Toney along with deep threat Campbell are going to wreck havoc on defenses. I watched a lot of the 2006 team last night and watched how Mullen got the ball to playmakers..awesome schemes and we just broke the spirit of our foes and worn them out. A lot of screens and reverse trick plays that just made teams look foolish.
Toney could be our Harvin if he gains a little weight and hits the exercise drills relentless. He is flashier than Harvin imo and difficult to tackle...but needs some strength. Copeland may be another play maker who changes games and picks up first downs with those good hands.
Know one thing....WRs are gonna duke it out for playing time. Competition will be good. We may have the tools to be in the top 40 offense and although that is not great, after our miserable 2010-17 showings I'll take it. Fans are starved for offense
Posted on 2/11/18 at 12:25 pm to reel_gator8
This is one of the first times in a long while we've signed a blue chip at every offensive position -- QB, WR, TE, OL and RB.
I think Copeland is going to be our next Harvin, if I'm being totally honest. The good news is that Mullen will finally have a team that has a lot of offensive talent.
At MSU almost everything was an uphill battle because he had to literally make everyone a gem.
In 2017 he had four 4* players at MSU.
In 2018, in a transition class at Florida in a terrible year for us: He has 4 players in the top 100. He cuadrupled his 4*s at Florida in less than 3 months.
I think Copeland is going to be our next Harvin, if I'm being totally honest. The good news is that Mullen will finally have a team that has a lot of offensive talent.
At MSU almost everything was an uphill battle because he had to literally make everyone a gem.
In 2017 he had four 4* players at MSU.
In 2018, in a transition class at Florida in a terrible year for us: He has 4 players in the top 100. He cuadrupled his 4*s at Florida in less than 3 months.
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