re: So, Scott Frost played QB during his teams practice for Navy...

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Here’s the difference, though. What McElwain did at Colorado State was impressive; what Frost is doing at UCF is eye-opening and incredible. The Knights went 0-12 in 2015, ranking 125th out of 127 FBS teams in scoring at 13.9 points per game. They could not have been much further from success at that point. Frost arrived, got UCF to 6 wins last season and now has the Knights absolutely rolling at 7-0 with the highest-scoring offense in the country at 51.0 points per game and 529.7 yards per game (fifth best nationally). That sudden and extreme of a turnaround is unthinkable. That kind of thing is simply too overwhelming to be a fluke.

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https://www.seccountry.com/florida/florida-coaching-search-scott-frost-candidate-jim-mcelwain

It’s odd that some guys like Mullen but don’t want Kiffin while others want Kiffin but don’t want Mullen. I don’t want Mullen but I would still believe that we turn things around just not as confident in winning big with him. His offenses have almost always had to have a big mobile QB . The only things I think Mullen would be have over Kiffin is being more loyal and less likely to get us on probation. Kiffin can run an offense with a pro style or dual threat QB.


Mullen is still at State for a reason. His personality is to much like Macs for me and his offense seems to need a tall strong running QB. He seems like a spread style version of Mac. Rumors were he didn’t like the pressure at UF either.

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Someone mentioned that Frost calls his own plays. If that’s true, what’s the point of the OC?

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I watched the Memphis game and that's what the commentator's said.

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I don't think he'll be here if he gets any kind of offer from anywhere.

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What other team would Kiffin leave for? Are you serious? Do you really think he would leave UF for Arkansas, Memphis or a Moo State? It doesn't get any bigger than UF. If he's winning, why would he leave? That's nonsense. If he's a bust, he needs to get his arse out of here just like Mac anyway.

This is who UCF has played/about to play.

Maryand
Maine
Memphis
Cincinnati
East Carolina
Navy
Austin Peay
SMU
Connecticut
Temple
USF

A real fricking murderers row. Do you know how AWFUL these teams are? Not one in the top 40. What is Frost's best win? FIU? Did you see his teams record last year? Did you see them lose the last 3 games of the year? Don't you want a guy that can improve a team as the season progresses???

USF is in the top 20. They were ranked until this past week I believe. They’re 7-1. Winner between the USF/UCF game wins the division and probably the conference.

I meant to say top 30 but the have been ranked until recently. They’re currently “receiving votes”.

What does 0-12 have to do with anything??? They were a bad team that year, so what. Do you even know the history of UCF football? They've always had good teams. 2015 was an anomaly. Everything that could go wrong, went wrong for that team. You need to do some research... LINK
UCF had a really bad year marred by all kind of tragedies.

Frost isn't some miracle worker that you're making him out to be. He had a BAD first year (bad for UCF), barely was bowl eligible and got blown out in that game. He ended that season on a 3 game losing streak. His schedule this year is dog shite. He so far hasn't beaten ANYONE. Not one quality win and you want to crown his arse? He'd be very lucky to match O'leary's wins in his last few years (2015 notwithstanding). O'Leary had a 9, 10, 11 and 12 win seasons his last few years. Excuse me if I'm not excited about what Frost has done in the last few months. Something tells me he'll lose the first game he plays a team with a pulse. Sound familiar???

FAU was bad for many years before Kiffin got there. 3-9 for 3 straight years and in Kiffin's first year they are undefeated in C-USA. They went from the worst offense in the league to the best in a few months. This, in his first year. You are out of your mind if you think Frost is as qualified as Kiffin, or knows offense as well as Kiffin, or knows how to recruit big boy CFB like Kiffin, or knows how to get players to the NFL like Kiffin. Frost's resume can't even touch Kiffin's. I get it, you don't like the guy but you are deluded if you think Frost is in the same area code as Kiffin. Frost can't hold Kiffin's jock strap.

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Frost isn't some miracle worker that you're making him out to be. He had a BAD first year (bad for UCF), barely was bowl eligible and got blown out in that game.

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That same team had gone 0 - 12, and now is looking at a potentially undefeated season.

So in two years he took a team from 0 - 12 to 11 - 1, 12 - 0.

''Hey man, it's a weak conference'', and that's when FAU gets blown the frick out by Navy, who UCF beat handily.

I want Frost's style of offense, and I like the way he handles his team -- he puts on a helmet and plays with his players, man. Who couldn't love a young, energetic leader type coach?

You want fricking Kiffin, man. Name a school where he's left without controversy. Name one.

He got fired with cause at Oakland, and the owner called him a ''flat-out liar''.

At Tennessee, he had to write a formal apology to the University of Florida, Jeremy Foley and Urban Meyer for wrongly accusing us of a recruiting violation.

At USC he lied about voting his team #1, weird how lies keep coming -- took that #1 team to a 7 - 6 record overall. Frost is incapable for having a bad season at UCF, but Kiffin is the right choice for being run out of USC?

He was such a piece of shite with Nick Saban that Saban didn't even want him on the team for the NCG. Literally booted him from the team. He fricked over Alabama by trying to do both jobs at the same time for a National Championship team.

So basically, what you're telling me is:

1. Kiffin's victories from a shitty FAU team are better than those from UCF -- when to me they're similar, only UCF actually beat Navy handily while Navy drubbed FAU.

2. We're going to hire a coach fired from his last two employers of USC and Alabama?

3. We're going to hire a coach who literally can't help but lie -- has been caught lying at every team he has been an HC at...after we fired a coach with cause for lying?

No. Way.

No. How.

frick. Kiffin.