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Posted on 6/23/22 at 10:38 pm to
Posted by finchmeister08
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Posted on 6/23/22 at 10:38 pm to
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Also you realize this was a Republican primary right? Are the republicans in on the conspiracy now as well?


Yes, I believe there is an “establishment” in Washington that consist of both Ds and Rs. McConnell, Graham, Cassidy, etc. just to name a few.

But I’m also a believer that The Gateway Pundit is a supermarket tabloid so there’s that.
Posted by slayerxing
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Posted on 6/24/22 at 6:02 am to
Lmao well at least we agree on the pundit

But I find it amusing to think establishment pubs and democrats would be able to work together effectively enough on ANYTHING, let alone the biggest conspiracy of all time, to actually get away with it.
Posted by UFMatt
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 10:20 am to
SCOTUS dealing some heavy blows to the Federal Government and liberal agendas by states.

NY concealed carry ruling
Miss abortion ruling
Roe vs Wade reversal
Coaches prayer case
Still waiting on EPA ruling that will limit government more

Thank you Donald Trump for the justices appointed during your time in office. They are finally coming thru on major constitutional issues. Your legacy can not be denied.
This post was edited on 6/27/22 at 10:23 am
Posted by HTXGator
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 11:12 pm to
Slay - One point you have to acknowledge is that these are Democrat urban islands inside of red states. That can't be ignored.

I don't think it would take some vast conspiracy to generate the votes that won the election. Just a small group of well funded folks that take advantage of the system. You have to admit it's at least a little bit ridiculous that at the time it took more documentation to get into a restaurant to eat (vaccine proof) than it did to vote for the president.

I didn't vote for Trump either time. Biden hasn't caused high gas prices (blame the EPA, that's a whole different post). I agree with you that both parties have been equally ineffective at times (but not at all times).

I'm not sure if there was fraud or not. But I think there's enough there to question whether or not we need to clean up the process moving forward. Someone more independent than the judges and politicians that benefit from the system needs to look into it. And don't say either end of the media counts.

But it's not helpful to outright dismiss all criticism (or critics) of the recent election process.
Posted by finchmeister08
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 11:23 pm to
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Biden hasn't caused high gas prices


Posted by HTXGator
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Posted on 6/28/22 at 12:23 am to
Biden didn't shut all the refineries that closed in 2020.

Or force the conversion of operable oil refineries into biodiesel refineries.

Or require companies to start developing smoke and mirror net zero plans.

There's a reason oil prices have hovered around $100 in the past but gas was $3. Now with the same oil prices gas is $4.50.

Don't worry it's still the liberals' fault. Just saying this was set in motion long ago.
Posted by UFMatt
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Posted on 6/28/22 at 6:39 am to
Biden's war on fossil fuels has driven the cost of gas to the record highs that we are seeing today. Denying that is just lying to yourself and others. Day one he shut down the pipeline, restricted leases and drilling and started his green new deal BS. A lot of oil trading is based on speculation, if the traders believe that oil is at risk or that a shortage is coming, the price goes up. If Biden wasn't controlled by the tree hugging left wing of the Dim party and just held a press conference saying that he was reversing his negative policies, gas prices would immediately come down. But he can't and won't do this because the nut jobs that control him won't let him. They want this to happen to further their agenda of wind mills and solar panels.
Posted by HTXGator
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Posted on 6/28/22 at 7:58 am to
You know oil prices increased pretty significantly in Trump's first couple of years in office right?

Which of his policies drove that 40% increase?

The president has less control over oil prices than we give both credit or blame for.

The war on fossil fuels started way before Biden. And even before he lost the bit of mental capacity he had, he was too much of an idiot to lead that war.
Posted by UFMatt
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Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:08 am to
I don't know where you were a year and a half ago but I was paying $2.19 a gallon for regular unleaded, the US was energy independent and a loaf of bread was a buck and a half. there is no one other than Biden and his policies to blame for the current gas and food prices. He could turn it around but he is being controlled by people that want the current US economic system to fail. Thank God, Trump's Supreme Court Justices are setting some things right. There is a big ruling coming this week that would greatly limit the federal government control of issues that are not covered in the constitution. Let's hope they come thru with the correct decision on this one too.
Posted by HTXGator
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Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:40 am to
"No one other than Biden"

You just forgetting about the whole Modern Monetary Theory experiment that everyone has been conducting in real time for the past 15 years? Go figure. You can't actually print an endless money supply without having inflation.

Statements like this ruin the credibility of conservative arguments that could actually make a difference in convincing people to quit voting for liberals.

There is plenty to blame Biden for without trying to stick everything on him.

Check Google. The oil industry has been warning everyone for years now that repeated under investment since 2014 will come back to haunt us. And here we are.

At least we can agree the Supreme Court is finally giving us some hope that federal overreach can be reversed. Will always be thankful for Trump doing exactly what he said he would in terms of who he appointed.
Posted by UFMatt
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 6:39 am to
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There is plenty to blame Biden for without trying to stick everything on him.


There is no covering for this incompetent POS, so stop trying to.

quote:

The oil industry has been warning everyone for years now that repeated under investment since 2014 will come back to haunt us. And here we are.


Yet, gas was around $2.00 a gallon until Biden took office with his green agenda and war on fossil fuel.

Again there is no covering for Biden, he has F'ed up everything that he has touched. But, it is true that part of the blame also goes to the Dimwits in the Congress and the Rinos that support them.

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Statements like this ruin the credibility of conservative arguments that could actually make a difference in convincing people to quit voting for liberals.



People that would still vote for this shite show are a lost cause, we will have to move forward without them.
Posted by HTXGator
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Posted on 6/29/22 at 1:44 pm to
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Yet, gas was around $2.00 a gallon until Biden took office with his green agenda and war on fossil fuel.


Any chance that had something to with gasoline demand still being suppressed by about 2 MILLION barrels per day at the end of 2020? Maybe it's more complex than a headline can convey?

I'm not covering for Biden. I just try to criticize the many areas where he is more directly culpable. Otherwise we do start to sound like conspiracy theorists.
Posted by UFMatt
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Posted on 6/30/22 at 7:03 am to
Big day for the SCOTUS and America. In the case of West Virginia vs EPA they could rule to cut the nuts off all of the alphabet agencies and unelected bureaucrats that unconstitutionally implement rules and regulations on the people and businesses in the US. This will force Congress to do it's job and pass laws the way the constitution intended. It could also be used to limit or eliminate executive orders. This is a much bigger decision than the Roe reversal as it affects everyone.

Also today, possibly the least qualified of any Justice in history gets sworn in. Elections have consequences so we have to protect election integrity going forward better then in the past.
This post was edited on 6/30/22 at 9:59 am
Posted by UFMatt
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Posted on 6/30/22 at 9:58 am to
Update:
Big win on EPA vs WV. Basically forces Congress to pass laws before agencies like EPA, CDC, DOE, OSHA can set regulations.

Loss on the RIM decision, this allows Biden to reverse Trumps Remain in México Executive order. Puzzling considering they ruled that Trump could not reverse an Obama EO when that case came before them.

I will take the win, much bigger decision. Biden administration was ignoring the RIM EO anyway and WV win will curve climate change regulations.

These decisions show why winning elections is so important, without the Trump appointed Justices none of the favorable ruling over the last week would have happened. We need a conservative back in the WH before Thomas retires.
This post was edited on 6/30/22 at 10:04 am
Posted by UFMatt
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 6:36 am to
Happy 4th of July fellow Gators and Americans!

We still live in the greatest country in the history of mankind. God Bless America.
Posted by UFMatt
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Posted on 7/5/22 at 7:24 am to
I flew a Trump 2024 flag at St. Augustine beach yesterday and it was amazing how many people just walked up to talk about how we had to change the current course of this country back to it's founding principles in November, and in 2024. It game me hope for the future. Although you won't see it on the MSM there are a lot of Patriots out there who still believe in America and the Constitution. I just tell anyone who will listen to vote, elections have consequences.
God Bless America.
Posted by Peter167
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Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:04 pm to
I constantly got raked over the coals for saying the wild arse sad people who cant believe Trump lost. Well it was his second loss in popular vote.

First to win electoral college. Hell good for him. But losing again? That is not impossible haha

Most common sense people do know he lost rt?
This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 10:05 pm
Posted by UFMatt
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Posted on 7/6/22 at 7:58 am to
Where do I start?

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Well it was his second loss in popular vote.


You do know that popular vote doesn't decide the presidential election right? If so NY and California would decide every election. There is a reason for the electoral college. Those folks that wrote the constitution were pretty smart.

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But losing again? That is not impossible haha


It will be difficult for any conservative to win as long as election laws allow for voter fraud that took place in 2020 due to unsupervised drop boxes, lack of voter ID, counting votes without signatures, etc.
The main reason Trump lost in 2020 was due to liberal state Governors and liberal state Courts violating their election rules without the Legislative branches of the states passing voter reform, which is required by the Constitution. In fact, the Supreme Court has agreed to hear a challenge on this in it's next session. Hopefully they can rule on this in time for the November election but for sure in time for 2024. The pandemic was the excuse for this unconstitutional power grab, we must learn from what happened in 2020 and fix it or all future election integrity will be in question.

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Most common sense people do know he lost rt?


Most people except that he lost but there is reasonable doubt as to whether the election was legit. There is too much evidence out there to not question it. 81 million votes for a washed up 50 year career failed politician, "Come on, Man." You have to be smarter than that.

Unless there are shenanigan's before or during the November election, the Republicans will take control of both the House and the Senate. On top of all they get done regarding inflation, energy policy, immigration you can bet that they will investigate voter fraud and other issues like H Biden's lap top and collusion that are not being investigated by the current Congress. Then to wrap this short story up, hopefully the integrity of the 2024 and future elections will not be in question.
This post was edited on 7/6/22 at 8:00 am
Posted by Peter167
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 7/9/22 at 2:34 pm to
I finally got my stimulus a free 2800 after i filed taxes. Told her i nher i never got shite Then it was automatic deposit on 1k then 1800 a couple weeks later

So he's alright in my book now. Outside of Capitol Hill he went full blown trump that day. Also prproud boy shite too

He skated on that grabbing pussy thing so easily. It lasted what 2 weeks in the news.
This post was edited on 7/9/22 at 2:38 pm
Posted by UFMatt
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Posted on 7/9/22 at 5:06 pm to
WTF?
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