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re: FIRE JIM MCELWAIN
Posted on 10/15/17 at 12:15 am to Gatorbait2008
Posted on 10/15/17 at 12:15 am to Gatorbait2008
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Have a beer. Sit back. It's going to be a long year.
Im at work, getting the business from LSU and Bama fans. Long night when you got nothing to offer for rebuttal
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Posted on 10/15/17 at 12:21 am to dbuchanon
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I wont defend his arse anymore.
I will.
Just some bullet points:
We look better at RB.
We look better at WR.
We look better at TE.
We look better on the O-Line, a lot of sacks were due to Franks not reading the play well enough.
Our defense, as young as it is, just held Texas A&M to the year's lowest amount of yards (even including Alabama).
They average 440 yards a game, they got 263.
They average 40 points a game, they got 19 (same as Alabama).
You guys are overreacting. LSU just beat Auburn, Texas A&M was within a score of Alabama -- we're getting a QB next year. He's not raw, he doesn't need ''tuning up'', watch his videos. He can make plays for us that Franks obviously cannot.
The team played a whole hell of a lot better than last week -- all outside of Franks.
You other guys never gave him a chance from the very beginning of the year, but considering he just put up 371 yards with a tight-end playing quarterback, it's a positive for me.
Sucks losing, but we didn't collapse. We came out and played hungry, we just have one guy on the team who is clearly way, way in over his head in Franks.
Posted on 10/15/17 at 12:28 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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We look better at RB.
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We look better at WR.
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We look better at TE.
First 2 yes, TE.. meh
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We look better on the O-Line
Yes
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a lot of sacks were due to Franks not reading the play well enough.
At what point does this staff adjust to fix this? Its a weekly problem. They have to put him in better situations.
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Our defense, as young as it is, just held Texas A&M to the year's lowest amount of yards (even including Alabama).
I like our defense. Just wished we'd blitz more in long situations.
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The team played a whole hell of a lot better than last week -- all outside of Franks.
Again, they need to simplify his reads or something. Cant just keep throwing him into the deep end of the pool.
Posted on 10/15/17 at 12:33 am to dbuchanon
Well, I should say we at least used the TEs.
I also...don't know if they're calling for those throws with him. A lot of times he seems to look short and then suddenly try to bomb out. I think a lot of Franks' problem is that he wants to be a hero and ends up taking needless shots downfield.
As for firing McElwain: If we lose Corral, we're going into the dark ages of football. Period. No one is going to magically make Franks look good. Even if we simplify things, he telegraphs to the other team what he's doing.
His hard count was fricking atrocious. A lot of times he lines up half-backs in positions where it's obvious he's throwing because they're standing in front of him.
As I said: McElwain did literally everything we wanted -- we ran from the pistol, we had jet sweeps, we had production from the rushing game, put up almost 400 yards of offense (would have, I think, if we negate those retarded sacks) and had 2 less first downs than Alabama.
But HE HAS THE CONTROL TO FIX THIS. Or at least attempt it.
Put. In. Zaire.
Give him a half against Georgia, he has two weeks to get this offense. Franks will not win games for us. (He also stared the frick down out of that throw over the middle.)
I also...don't know if they're calling for those throws with him. A lot of times he seems to look short and then suddenly try to bomb out. I think a lot of Franks' problem is that he wants to be a hero and ends up taking needless shots downfield.
As for firing McElwain: If we lose Corral, we're going into the dark ages of football. Period. No one is going to magically make Franks look good. Even if we simplify things, he telegraphs to the other team what he's doing.
His hard count was fricking atrocious. A lot of times he lines up half-backs in positions where it's obvious he's throwing because they're standing in front of him.
As I said: McElwain did literally everything we wanted -- we ran from the pistol, we had jet sweeps, we had production from the rushing game, put up almost 400 yards of offense (would have, I think, if we negate those retarded sacks) and had 2 less first downs than Alabama.
But HE HAS THE CONTROL TO FIX THIS. Or at least attempt it.
Put. In. Zaire.
Give him a half against Georgia, he has two weeks to get this offense. Franks will not win games for us. (He also stared the frick down out of that throw over the middle.)
Posted on 10/15/17 at 12:38 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
If Franks is that bad, put in Zaire, hell take the RS off the kid and put him out there. If all of these QB's cant make this unit look like an actual offense its not on the players. I feel Franks transfers next yr, and I swear if he pulls a Grier Ill fly to UF and kick Nuss and Macs arse myself.
Posted on 10/15/17 at 12:42 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Few things to point out to the one blind man left.
- second week in a row insanely bad clock management cost us possible points at the end of half.
This time, your beloved Uncle didn't even know we had a timeout. The head coach, didn't know we had a timeout. The fans knew, it's why they booed him all the way back to the locker room.
- Once again, Nord. End of statement.
- No Toney? Okay, so let's just forget that entire part of the playbook. Never mind that Zaire can run it. You know, the guy you bought in for change of pace this offseason?
- Got out coached in the second half. Again.
- Davis is still somehow not the work horse. Why make him one? I mean he only averages 7 a carry. Wouldn't want to actually score touchdowns. Much more fun to put 17 up.
- Year three. Same issues as year one.
Name the last game that was coached well?
Iowa?
Before that?
Georgia
Before that?
Kentucky
Before that
Ole Miss.
Four. Four well coached games in two and a half years. Four games where we looked like a well coached team. That. Is. Not. Good. Enough. For. Florida.
We aren't USF moron. We don't accept 3-3 here. Haven't since 1986, the year I was born.
Pathetic.
- second week in a row insanely bad clock management cost us possible points at the end of half.
This time, your beloved Uncle didn't even know we had a timeout. The head coach, didn't know we had a timeout. The fans knew, it's why they booed him all the way back to the locker room.
- Once again, Nord. End of statement.
- No Toney? Okay, so let's just forget that entire part of the playbook. Never mind that Zaire can run it. You know, the guy you bought in for change of pace this offseason?
- Got out coached in the second half. Again.
- Davis is still somehow not the work horse. Why make him one? I mean he only averages 7 a carry. Wouldn't want to actually score touchdowns. Much more fun to put 17 up.
- Year three. Same issues as year one.
Name the last game that was coached well?
Iowa?
Before that?
Georgia
Before that?
Kentucky
Before that
Ole Miss.
Four. Four well coached games in two and a half years. Four games where we looked like a well coached team. That. Is. Not. Good. Enough. For. Florida.
We aren't USF moron. We don't accept 3-3 here. Haven't since 1986, the year I was born.
Pathetic.
Posted on 10/15/17 at 12:44 am to dbuchanon
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If Franks is that bad, put in Zaire, hell take the RS off the kid and put him out there. If all of these QB's cant make this unit look like an actual offense its not on the players. I feel Franks transfers next yr, and I swear if he pulls a Grier Ill fly to UF and kick Nuss and Macs arse myself.
Unfortunately I think we're gonna have to stomach another year of an average transfer just riding us into the sunset.
Franks will not be the quarterback here next year -- he will never beat out Corral, and...I just don't know, man. I think he's cracking under the pressure. It's like he's never played quarterback before.
The offense outside of Franks worked really, really well. Our half-backs got 150 yards, and usually that means we're having a good game.
McElwain needs to pull the trigger, put the dog running his offense out of its misery. He's benched him twice this season, and he only started because Del Rio broke his collarbone.
Posted on 10/15/17 at 12:49 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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he will never beat out Corral
Hell man at this point I hope we can hang on to Corral.
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Our half-backs got 150 yards, and usually that means we're having a good game.
It does say alot even though we have no pass threat whatsoever.
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McElwain needs to pull the trigger, put the dog running his offense out of its misery
We need something to happen. Best QB plays, regardless of RS ect.
This post was edited on 10/15/17 at 12:50 am
Posted on 10/15/17 at 12:51 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Im tired of watching our defense play their asses off with the feeling of if we go down by 1-2 pts late its over. When they kicked the fg I looked and my co-workers and said well that'll do it.
Posted on 10/15/17 at 12:59 am to dbuchanon
Your entire reason for holding on to Mac seems to be Corral.
Ill take Mike Leach and a three star Qb over Mac and any Qb in high school at this point.
Corral is not a reason to keep a bad coach. One recruit being the make or break for a program, shows you just how bad UF is under Mac.
Or is it someone else's fault he couldnt recruit a Qb for three years that could run his system?
Besides the guy not good enough to start for Oregon State of course.
Ill take Mike Leach and a three star Qb over Mac and any Qb in high school at this point.
Corral is not a reason to keep a bad coach. One recruit being the make or break for a program, shows you just how bad UF is under Mac.
Or is it someone else's fault he couldnt recruit a Qb for three years that could run his system?
Besides the guy not good enough to start for Oregon State of course.
Posted on 10/15/17 at 1:01 am to dbuchanon
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Im tired of watching our defense play their asses off with the feeling of if we go down by 1-2 pts late its over. When they kicked the fg I looked and my co-workers and said well that'll do it.
That's the depressing part of it all. shite, man, the defense really came through. Really...it's gotta suck to be a running back, too. Perine broke like three tackles to get a touchdown, we had a great sweep for a touchdown.
Literally, we did everything physically possible outside of have a better plan for Franks. And he did some alright passes, but he just has no clue how to manage the offense -- and we don't need a playmaker so to speak for the offense. We just need a dude who can line us up, see what the defense is giving him, make his read and do it.
Franks wants to ball out, but he doesn't make the decisions to justify it.
Posted on 10/15/17 at 1:04 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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put up almost 400 yards of offense (would have, I think, if we negate those retarded sacks) and had 2 less first downs than Alabama.
You keep going after Franks in every post, and yet you have no problem using his 79 yard run that was the reason for 1 of the 2 TDs to bolster the offensive stats.
Posted on 10/15/17 at 1:08 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
11-11 vs teams at or above .500.
Posted on 10/15/17 at 1:13 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
The dog running his offense is himself. This is Mac's offense. Its the exact same as it was at CSU. He had just enough talent to look good against the tomato cans
Posted on 10/15/17 at 1:17 am to Gatorbait2008
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Your entire reason for holding on to Mac seems to be Corral.
Corral is holding this class together for a good part. He's recruiting for us and has built relationships with the other top wrs ect.
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Ill take Mike Leach and a three star Qb over Mac and any Qb in high school at this point.
I cant say anything against that at this point. Walkon Falk led the nation in tds before this weekend.
Posted on 10/15/17 at 1:21 am to Gatorbait2008
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Ill take Mike Leach and a three star Qb over Mac and any Qb in high school at this point
That’s the thing, your offense shouldn’t need an all-star to be effective. Corral should be the difference in a championship run, not the reason we field a decent offense.
Posted on 10/15/17 at 1:24 am to bgator85
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You keep going after Franks in every post, and yet you have no problem using his 79 yard run that was the reason for 1 of the 2 TDs to bolster the offensive stats.
Do you think Zaire couldn't do what he did, or that he would do it worse? If all we're holding onto him is for his legwork, he's not doing it better than Zaire.
That's the whole point I'm making:
What does he do better than Zaire, actually? He had a great run, he had two dumb frick interceptions and many, many terrible reads. I even said:
Our RBs got 150 yards. That's usually a pretty good showing for a team.
We needed that run less than we needed someone who can actually run an offense. Who can make a read. Who doesn't miss wide open receivers all over the field.
It's not that I'm ungrateful for the run, it's that his heart accounts for absolutely nothing if he throws interceptions on first down and can't make a read to save his life.
That he runs out of the pocket when there's no need, that he hesitates to run or pass, that he has no idea what's going on around him, that he has no composure, that he doesn't recognize blitzes.
What is he doing that Zaire could not?
Posted on 10/15/17 at 1:25 am to bgator85
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That’s the thing, your offense shouldn’t need an all-star to be effective.
Good point, what if -God forbid- Matt gets hurt his first game..
Posted on 10/15/17 at 1:27 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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What is he doing that Zaire could not?
Thats the question, going by Zaire's tweet last week, he obviously feels he could do better.
Posted on 10/15/17 at 1:34 am to dbuchanon
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Corral is holding this class together for a good part. He's recruiting for us and has built relationships with the other top wrs ect.
Yhep.
We might as well mail it in if we lose Corral. Football's over for a long time.
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Ill take Mike Leach and a three star Qb over Mac and any Qb in high school at this point.
Washington State QB Luke Falk threw all five of his interceptions against four or fewer pass rushers, in Cal's upset Friday night. The five interceptions are a career-high for Falk and the second-most interceptions thrown by an FBS quarterback in a game this season.
Yeah, I'm good with our two interceptions, gentlemen.
The people calling for McElwain have no fricking clue what they're asking for.
Bank on Corral, go with Zaire.
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