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Analyzing Kyle Trask.
Posted on 8/16/20 at 9:27 pm
Posted on 8/16/20 at 9:27 pm
So, I've always been interested in Quarterbacks and after rewatching some games from the 2019 Season, I decided that I would give a general overview on what I thought about him. Guys like "Top Billin'" basically say exactly what the fans want to hear, and while I've always been one of Trask's supporters (even before he started), I wanted to point out some of his flaws.
First and foremost, let's talk about the Good: He can read defenses, he's smart, tall, can see the field and seems to understand what's going on. This, for a Gator QB is pretty much revolutionary since we haven't had one that can find the open receiver (on most plays) and throw it into traffic since Tebow. (Grier doesn't really count, but I digress.)
The Bad: He doesn't fit the system and he is simply unathletic. Several injuries have hampered him throughout his career and while he seemed to take the hits well (outside of the hit that sidelined him, but that may have sidelined anyone) it is something to keep an eye on. His turnovers were pretty bad to begin the year but that seemed to be cleaned up later on.
The Ugly: His worst quality for me is his footwork. He almost never sets his feet, and this causes people to misinterpret his throwing power. He actually does have enough power to be a next level Quarterback, but because his footwork is so terrible he never gets in the right motion. This causes the ball to float sometimes, too, and we saw how it can get him in trouble.
All in all, I still like what I see. However, if he doesn't play this year, I think he should go straight to the NFL and simply leave college ball behind him. I think the numbers and weapons at QB are enough to roll the dice with Emory in 2021, since we will have three QBs built for the system overall.
I was bored, just wanted to talk about something.
First and foremost, let's talk about the Good: He can read defenses, he's smart, tall, can see the field and seems to understand what's going on. This, for a Gator QB is pretty much revolutionary since we haven't had one that can find the open receiver (on most plays) and throw it into traffic since Tebow. (Grier doesn't really count, but I digress.)
The Bad: He doesn't fit the system and he is simply unathletic. Several injuries have hampered him throughout his career and while he seemed to take the hits well (outside of the hit that sidelined him, but that may have sidelined anyone) it is something to keep an eye on. His turnovers were pretty bad to begin the year but that seemed to be cleaned up later on.
The Ugly: His worst quality for me is his footwork. He almost never sets his feet, and this causes people to misinterpret his throwing power. He actually does have enough power to be a next level Quarterback, but because his footwork is so terrible he never gets in the right motion. This causes the ball to float sometimes, too, and we saw how it can get him in trouble.
All in all, I still like what I see. However, if he doesn't play this year, I think he should go straight to the NFL and simply leave college ball behind him. I think the numbers and weapons at QB are enough to roll the dice with Emory in 2021, since we will have three QBs built for the system overall.
I was bored, just wanted to talk about something.
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Posted on 8/16/20 at 11:26 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Trask is tough, does a good job using his weapons to his advantage, and from what I can remember was extremely accurate on short and midrange passes.
He didn't seem to have a very strong arm, but you could be right, I didn't notice his footwork. He was obviously not comfortable in the pocket a lot. Hard to blame him with that line.
I would also say that sometimes he tries to do too much. Mullen talked about it all year. Part of that was probably inexperience.
It'll be intersting to see how he adjusts to what is IMO a much weaker WR room with all the departures (and don't forget Perine). I think he benefited a lot last year from the personnel on the team. It's more on his shoulders now, he isn't taking anyone by surprise.
He didn't seem to have a very strong arm, but you could be right, I didn't notice his footwork. He was obviously not comfortable in the pocket a lot. Hard to blame him with that line.
I would also say that sometimes he tries to do too much. Mullen talked about it all year. Part of that was probably inexperience.
It'll be intersting to see how he adjusts to what is IMO a much weaker WR room with all the departures (and don't forget Perine). I think he benefited a lot last year from the personnel on the team. It's more on his shoulders now, he isn't taking anyone by surprise.
Posted on 8/17/20 at 2:53 am to slayerxing
He half slings his throws a lot, like even when he's not being really pressured he seems to take like a little "hop" which makes the ball come out all funky.
I don't think the personnel will make a huge difference in his accuracy, he hit his target way more often than not. It was almost always right where it needed to be, so I know he'll be able to get the ball there.
My larger concern is the separation that we can achieve so it can make his reads at least a little easier. We need strong, physical players to muscle the DBs and we can't have guys who aren't willing to get their hands dirty or Trask will throw a lot of picks.
That being said:
Grimes and Pittman are back -- those two are huge. Pittman might have a record season for us if he stays healthy. After that things get a bit bad. Toney's good, he could be a weapon if he listens to coach (lol) and of course we have a few transfers: Shorter (5*) who could make some noise.
Really, I'd be surprised if the corps takes a huge dip in production, but hopefully we actually have a running offense this season.
I don't think the personnel will make a huge difference in his accuracy, he hit his target way more often than not. It was almost always right where it needed to be, so I know he'll be able to get the ball there.
My larger concern is the separation that we can achieve so it can make his reads at least a little easier. We need strong, physical players to muscle the DBs and we can't have guys who aren't willing to get their hands dirty or Trask will throw a lot of picks.
That being said:
Grimes and Pittman are back -- those two are huge. Pittman might have a record season for us if he stays healthy. After that things get a bit bad. Toney's good, he could be a weapon if he listens to coach (lol) and of course we have a few transfers: Shorter (5*) who could make some noise.
Really, I'd be surprised if the corps takes a huge dip in production, but hopefully we actually have a running offense this season.
Posted on 8/17/20 at 7:58 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
He kind of reminds me of Danny in that he seems to get the ball where it needs to go. Not always pretty, but effective.
Your analyzes is on point.
Your analyzes is on point.
Posted on 8/17/20 at 10:35 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Emory in 2021
i don't think emory ever sees the field as a starter. with richardson on the roster, it's gonna be difficult for him i think.
Posted on 8/17/20 at 4:13 pm to finchmeister08
That's how I'd lowkey have it, but I think Mullen has shown time and time again that the guy with seniority will start. I guess it's the safe thing.
Two quarterbacks who were objectively better sat on the bench twice in his career:
Dak Prescott had to wait for an injury to play.
Kyle Trask had to wait for an injury to play.
EJ will start, I think, but Anthony Richardson is going to be an absolute monster of a player for us. Coldblooded killer.
Two quarterbacks who were objectively better sat on the bench twice in his career:
Dak Prescott had to wait for an injury to play.
Kyle Trask had to wait for an injury to play.
EJ will start, I think, but Anthony Richardson is going to be an absolute monster of a player for us. Coldblooded killer.
Posted on 8/18/20 at 6:39 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
What you said plus he’s got to help himself to not get injured by better awareness of corner and/or delayed blitzes.
Posted on 8/18/20 at 10:00 am to GatorOnAnIsland
Trask has been working a ton on his mechanics and footwork this offseason, if you've been following him on the Twitters.
Posted on 8/18/20 at 5:11 pm to boXerrumble
I hadn't seen that but it's good to know.
Let's hope this isn't one of those: "Well, it works for him but it's so unorthodox that we need to fix it...oh no, we've broken him, quick, teach him to go back." - Type of deals.
Let's hope this isn't one of those: "Well, it works for him but it's so unorthodox that we need to fix it...oh no, we've broken him, quick, teach him to go back." - Type of deals.
Posted on 8/20/20 at 2:39 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
His is footwork is fine at the beginning of the play. His issue is once the pocket starts collapsing he doesn't reset to throw.
He throws very well in the middle of the field. I noticed a lot of his throws towards the sideline past 10 yards are kind of iffy as well.
He def does not match the scheme though I agree. Add in there is no run game yet we constantly ran play action on routes we really didn't need to(back shoulder throws) which screwed up timing a lot.
I think we forget Mullen had to adjust a lot to Trask as well. After LSU the offense started to look even better. Auburn it was rough, LSU is was good, the further along we went the better it looked. Georgia it's hard to blame the offense the defense was on the field all game, and the offense scored on 3 of 6 drives vs an elite defense which is really all you can ask for.
He throws very well in the middle of the field. I noticed a lot of his throws towards the sideline past 10 yards are kind of iffy as well.
He def does not match the scheme though I agree. Add in there is no run game yet we constantly ran play action on routes we really didn't need to(back shoulder throws) which screwed up timing a lot.
I think we forget Mullen had to adjust a lot to Trask as well. After LSU the offense started to look even better. Auburn it was rough, LSU is was good, the further along we went the better it looked. Georgia it's hard to blame the offense the defense was on the field all game, and the offense scored on 3 of 6 drives vs an elite defense which is really all you can ask for.
Posted on 8/20/20 at 4:53 pm to Gatorbait2008
Yep, and his sideline throws aren't bad or really limited, it's just that he refuses to set and throw. It's almost like he has to have a little skip when he throws it, but as I said, as long as it keeps working I really don't care that much. It's just going to be hard to hit downfield passes without setting.
Although, he was fourth in the SEC for yards an attempt, so apparently he was throwing quite a bit downfield for the complaints about his arm strength. (Hitting 66.9% of his passes, too).
Hopefully we have a good running game this season, that could really crack open this offense and put a lot less stress on his play.
Although, he was fourth in the SEC for yards an attempt, so apparently he was throwing quite a bit downfield for the complaints about his arm strength. (Hitting 66.9% of his passes, too).
Hopefully we have a good running game this season, that could really crack open this offense and put a lot less stress on his play.
Posted on 8/20/20 at 11:25 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Hopefully we have a good running game this season, that could really crack open this offense and put a lot less stress on his play.
OL is key to the whole season.
Posted on 8/21/20 at 3:14 am to boXerrumble
Even if we have a bad OL, I've seen that we can work around it. Trouble is, it takes a lot of time and effort, a lot of practices have been missed. Hopefully they're in good shape.
The team has looked pretty solid S&C wise, but it really, really helps having almost our entire staff in tact for the last few years.
The team has looked pretty solid S&C wise, but it really, really helps having almost our entire staff in tact for the last few years.
Posted on 8/21/20 at 9:32 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
With Trask, he has a tendency to throw off his back foot when pressure is coming from the middle. That caused his throws to float.
Moving White to center and Reese at Guard should prevent the push up the middle. Worried about the outside but Trask can avoid that if he can step up into the pocket.
Moving White to center and Reese at Guard should prevent the push up the middle. Worried about the outside but Trask can avoid that if he can step up into the pocket.
Posted on 8/21/20 at 5:14 pm to BloodSweat&Beers
I have a feeling that Trask will never completely fix those mechanics while he's at Florida.
However, he would be a very good project in the NFL where he could be a backup for years and actually learn the fundamentals.
He's had secondary attention at the high school and college level, so really it's trying to give a guy who clearly has the talent/mentality and then implementing an entirely new way to play.
Obviously I hope he has it by this year (his last year), but I think it might be too big of an obstacle to overcome in too short of time.
Good news is that he's at least serviceable and still a huge asset on the offense, regardless of his technique.
However, he would be a very good project in the NFL where he could be a backup for years and actually learn the fundamentals.
He's had secondary attention at the high school and college level, so really it's trying to give a guy who clearly has the talent/mentality and then implementing an entirely new way to play.
Obviously I hope he has it by this year (his last year), but I think it might be too big of an obstacle to overcome in too short of time.
Good news is that he's at least serviceable and still a huge asset on the offense, regardless of his technique.
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