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re: **2017 Football Recruiting Thread**

Posted on 12/13/16 at 9:21 am to
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19837 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 9:21 am to
Seems all the recruits knew Collins was on his way out. Zach tweeted he's still all Gator. Wished Collins the best.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35951 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 10:03 am to
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Leatherwood also said after his UF visit he still doesn't want to play anywhere else but Bama.

of course. who wouldn't? guaranteed championships vs guaranteed 3 and outs. which would you choose?
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 3:03 pm to
Wade sticks with OSU. Donaldson stays committed to Miami
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30463 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 6:48 pm to
Yeah, those were predictable.

Thought UF had a chance with Donaldon, but ultimately he sticks with Miami. Oh well.
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19837 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 8:06 pm to
Bishop decommits from Auburn

Says its down to UGA and UF

We need a big move for DC to turn this around
This post was edited on 12/13/16 at 11:12 pm
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30463 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 7:42 am to
Bishop wants UF, mom wants UGA. This one will be interesting down the stretch.
Posted by UF
Florida
Member since Nov 2016
2696 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 7:49 am to
I still say throw a massive amount of cash at Schiano for DC. Combination of him and Shannon would be pretty elite for coaching and recruiting.
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 8:43 am to
I like the talent in this class. It's relatively small right now, but 11 of our 14 commits are rated 4 stars or better on at least two recruiting services. We need to get about 11 more commits in this class and have 6 or 7 of them be blue chips (4 or 5 stars).

I'd like for us to get guys that are good fits over anything else. This class will end up ranked between 10-12 again, so filling it with talented guys and good fits at positions of need- 3 more DBs, 2 more DTs, and one more QB, is more important than the overall class ranking. I think we'all close fine.
This post was edited on 12/14/16 at 8:44 am
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 5:36 pm to
Like I've posted before...2 yrs isnt a long time when you consider the first year was spent just getting to know WHO were our players and getting out to meet recruits and high school coaches.

AU doesnt have nearly the academics that UF has to offer. I still say that W/Ls arent the real reason behind successful recruiting and could rattle off plenty of schools (including OURS after a 4-8 season) that had great talent landed.

Likewise, I have also posted that some of these recruits were walked to elementary schools by team coaches and had lunch boxes packed by those coaches...of course Im being sarcastic....but the truth is that a lot of the recruits we want have been wooed by suitors for years.

The other point is that recruiting isnt the be all end all or otherwise Zook would still be our HC. Its what happens to the recruits once they are signed and delivered. Would you rather have a great recruiter or a good coach who recognizes and develops talent?

In 2018 Mac will have had 3 classes under his belt and he will have the bulk of players he has signed. Right now he doesnt and you cant judge him as well as you can after 2018. If he isnt showing noticeable improvement in 2018 then we start all over again.

Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35951 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 1:55 pm to
looks like TJ and I aren't the only skeptical gator fans.

LINK

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With the way things look right now and with the committed recruits that are deserting the ship I'm afraid the NCAA would be in Gainesville the day after NSD if the Gators come up with anything closely approaching that group of players. I don't have any expectations of them signing even a top 25 class.
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
One Particular Harbor, Fl
Member since Jan 2012
9153 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

looks like TJ and I aren't the only skeptical gator fans.

LINK


Agreed, there are a bunch of skeptical gator fans right now.

I could provide link after link. UF's 247 is a shitshow of doom and gloom.


There is a lot reasons to be skeptical. Offensive statistics, QB play, recruiting class rankings... on and on it can go.

On the flip side of things, there are a bunch of positives.

Doom and gloom or the next college football dynasty, I think it is somewhere in the middle.

Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52464 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:57 pm to
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UF's 247 is a shitshow of doom and gloom.


247 has turned into trash.
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 5:39 pm to
It has gotten bad is right. Negative nellies.
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30463 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 7:57 pm to
Finch, if they finish with a safe guesstimate, which was Abolverdi's class, its good for 12-16.

Posted by gatorbait_007
Clemson, SC
Member since Oct 2013
924 posts
Posted on 12/16/16 at 12:18 am to
Davis, Brantley, Wilson and Tabor given first round grades/projections by Todd McShay. Don't see Brantley staying with that intel. D-Line is a must.

Donovan People Jones committed to Michigan. Had us in Final 5 no one really expected us to get him.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 12/16/16 at 8:05 am to
Kirby Smart just had the same lackluster year and his recruiting is perfectly fine.
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 12/16/16 at 8:39 am to
Im glad he's recruiting well and going 7-5. I'll take top 12 classes and SEC Championship Games over top 5 classes and 7-5 with losses to teams like Vandy, Georgia Tech, etc.

Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 12/16/16 at 9:09 am to
That's a very short term viewpoint. If those top classes at uga pan out you'll be not so glib about it.

The talent on paper is fantastic.

I don't think Kirby is a good coach though.
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 12/16/16 at 9:28 am to
Kirby is an awful coach. You guys act like top 12 classes mean there's no talent in them. I'm not lowering the standards, but there's not a huge difference in a class of 20 players with 13 four and five stars that's ranked 12th and a class of 25 with 16 or 17 four and five stars that's ranked 5th. I'd love to have a top 5 class, who wouldn't? But if you're asking me if I'd rather have our recruiting and win and go to championship games, or UGAs recruiting and go 7-5, I would take us in a heartbeat.

Those recruiting classes haven't helped UGA beat us the last three years or 20 out of the last 26 years
Posted by UF
Florida
Member since Nov 2016
2696 posts
Posted on 12/16/16 at 3:21 pm to
So, if Mac doesn't pull in a Top 10 class, can we blame it on the Russians?
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