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Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:05 pm to
Pruitt will not be retained by Smart. Muschamp will make a move for him to come to SC.

https://www.dawgnation.com/football/team-news/smarts-potential-coaching-staff-at-georgia

If that happens, Pruitt will bring some of the georgia Def position coaches with him.
Posted by Carolina_Girl
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:05 pm to
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Oh, and then there is Dino Babers



Was fully expecting UCF to hire him. I was surprised when they went with Frost after how Babers was pursued by UCF.
Posted by Carolina_Girl
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:08 pm to
quote:

Pruitt will not be retained by Smart. Muschamp will make a move for him to come to SC.

LINK

If that happens, Pruitt will bring some of the georgia Def position coaches with him.



What about the Pruitt interest as HC at USC rumors?


If what you proposed here were to happen, it actually would make me look at his hiring in a different light. But what if he can't get them to sign on at SCAR and we're left fumbling in the dark for assistants as well? I realize that's a chance we take no matter who we hire, though.
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:09 pm to
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Opinions and perceptions here are based on his prior HC experience..which was a complete and total disaster no matter how you dress it up.


He went 29-21 and made it to the Sugar Bowel the one year Driskel didn't get hurt or have anxiety attacks.

Its not like he was Derek Dooley
Posted by Carolina_Girl
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:10 pm to
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He went 29-21



This is supposed to persuade those of us who are worried?
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:13 pm to
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What about the Pruitt interest as HC at USC rumors?


UG AD hates Pruitt. Smart may not be able to retain him. Muschamp would make him a DC at SC and Muschamp is also bringing DB Coach Trav Robinson. There is also a great chance he could bring Lawing back as well.
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:14 pm to
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This is supposed to persuade those of us who are worried?


Read what I wrote on the last page about the injuries and suspensions. Florida was the most snakebit team in 2013 bar none.
Posted by TiptonInSC
Aiken, SC
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:15 pm to
The problem is Muschamp was stupid enough to hire Charlie Weis as his OC at Florida.

We all know the fat frick is a joke, but apparently Boom was swayed with the same tactic Weis used for recruiting by staring at his three SB rings he received off of the back of who is possibly the greatest NFL head coach of all time.

I personally thought Fuente was the best candidate we should have went after harder. I think Tanner's weakness was because he was a coach he wanted to give whoever was in that position to prove themselves before he started searching harder. Look at the baseball program, he let his conscience get in the way of not hiring another coach to take his spot, and so far that isn't working out, and that same decision making has carried over to the football program.

Sorry, I'm just frustrated like the rest of you, and maybe I didn't write it out to make much sense. However, I think we all can agree that Tanner has really shite the bed with this situation.
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:17 pm to
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The problem is Muschamp was stupid enough to hire Charlie Weis as his OC at Florida.



I've heard that Jeremy Foley, the AD at Florida forced Muschamp to hire Weis
Posted by Carolina_Girl
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:21 pm to
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UG AD hates Pruitt. Smart may not be able to retain him. Muschamp would make him a DC at SC and Muschamp is also bringing DB Coach Trav Robinson. There is also a great chance he could bring Lawing back as well.


Yeah, heard about the bad blood between him and Pruitt. Sounds like the UGA AD is just a whiny bitch, honestly.

Now the bring back Lawing part I could definitely get behind. No ifs, ands or buts there for sure.

And I see your point about the 2013 Florida team. I know you pointed out there were really no parallels between the two, but the whole Brad Scott thing really, really haunts my nightmares.
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:21 pm to
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Read what I wrote on the last page about the injuries and suspensions. Florida was the most snakebit team in 2013 bar none.


He also lost to GSU. I don't want to swap one D2 losing coach for another.

Plus, what about his last season? Wasn't he like 6-6 or something.

If I had to say any 1 season was a flash in the pan it was that 2012 squad, not 2013.
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:22 pm to
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The problem is Muschamp was stupid enough to hire Charlie Weis as his OC at Florida.

We all know the fat frick is a joke, but apparently Boom was swayed with the same tactic Weis used for recruiting by staring at his three SB rings he received off of the back of who is possibly the greatest NFL head coach of all time.


I agree, the rings were shiny.


quote:

Sorry, I'm just frustrated like the rest of you, and maybe I didn't write it out to make much sense. However, I think we all can agree that Tanner has really shite the bed with this situation.


You can't fault Tanner for Kirby wanting to go home to uga. You can't fault him for Fuente not clearing the vetting process. The only thing you could potentially fault him for is IF he was the one who leaked the deal to PK and that spooked Herman. If he wasn't responsible for that leak (or telling the person who did leak it) then it's not his fault. We weren't getting Kelly, Dantonio or Saban no matter who the AD was.
Posted by lungbuster06
Member since Dec 2014
738 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:23 pm to
The more I've thought about Muschamp today, the more it's grown on me. His OC hire will be critical to his success.

I would like to recommend a stipulation for his contract...on the game closest to Halloween, he must paint himself green. #CoachHulk
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:26 pm to
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And I see your point about the 2013 Florida team. I know you pointed out there were really no parallels between the two, but the whole Brad Scott thing


What were going to get, that we haven't had in 10 years, is finally some negative recruiters.

Muschamp is a Ninja Master level recruit flipper. This is going to give fat brad and his son fricking nightmares. Our coaches were told to play nice the past 10 years and only focus on the positives of our program and now the gloves are coming off.
Posted by Bluefin
The Banana Stand
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:27 pm to
I have no doubt that Muschamp would bring some recruiting excitement and eventually a solid defense, but that article is trying to excuse a 4 year tenure that just wasn't very good, and rests a lot on the opinions of folks who may be close to Muschamp. All we have to go on is his previous experience, and the reasons for which he was fired are still fresh in everyone's minds.

If Muschamp's first 2 years at SC are bad, are we just going to keep giving him more time because maybe "the pieces just don't fit yet" and he just has to find the right OC/QB? It's the HC's job to get it right early on, especially when you're inheriting a mess in the SEC.

I'm just not going to see the positives here. I really wanted Muschamp to succeed at UF because I've always liked him, but it went badly and now we're likely ending up with him at a time when we need a fresh face with a strong recruiting background, like Pruitt.
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:31 pm to
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f I had to say any 1 season was a flash in the pan it was that 2012 squad, not 2013.


Yeah, 2012 was when he had most of his guys healthy and he won as many games as Herman has this year; 2013 he had injuries like crazy to that returning starting roster.

Muschamp will recruit here at a level we've never seen since the '07 class. He'll assemble a staff we haven't seen here in 3 years.
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:33 pm to
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I'm just not going to see the positives here. I really wanted Muschamp to succeed at UF because I've always liked him, but it went badly and now we're likely ending up with him at a time when we need a fresh face with a strong recruiting background, like Pruitt.


Pruitt isn't staying at uga, their AD hates him, Muschamp will probably bring him to SC if Smart can't weasel a way to keep him.
Posted by Bluefin
The Banana Stand
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:43 pm to
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Pruitt isn't staying at uga, their AD hates him, Muschamp will probably bring him to SC if Smart can't weasel a way to keep him.

Is Pruitt not that determined to get a HC job? I have to imagine that if he's going to stay as a DC, he'll just go with Richt to wherever he ends up. I just think he'd view working for Muschamp or Smart as working for a guy who is on the same level as him, and not very enticing.

Can we pay him much more than what he was making at UGA?
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:53 pm to
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Is Pruitt not that determined to get a HC job? I have to imagine that if he's going to stay as a DC, he'll just go with Richt to wherever he ends up. I just think he'd view working for Muschamp or Smart as working for a guy who is on the same level as him, and not very enticing.

Can we pay him much more than what he was making at UGA?


He's making $1.3M at uga. We could do that or go north of it. What really would be the question is (would he take a lower HC job at a FCS or nonP5 OR would he be selected for the open DC jobs at bama or auburn. Really, I don't think Pruitt would end up here if aub, bama and a few FCS or non-p5 jobs offered him as their 1st choice. Things are really going to move quickly this week though, so we'll see what happens.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
43544 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:01 pm to
If we're hiring Kirby it means the AD will be hands off on the football team. If he wants Pruitt he can have him. Looks like he wants Muschamp though.
This post was edited on 12/1/15 at 11:02 pm
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