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HoldenOversoul
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re: Josh Belk say's Muschamp threatened to pull......
He would remain on scholarship, that scenario happens all the time. I'm sure at some point they're told they probably aren't ever going to play and it's up to them if they want to stick it out or look around.


I Bleed Garnet
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re: Josh Belk say's Muschamp threatened to pull......
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He would remain on scholarship, that scenario happens all the time. I'm sure at some point they're told they probably aren't ever going to play and it's up to them if they want to stick it out or look around.


Happens all the time with us?
Don’t the majority of CFB programs use the one year format?

you have 1 year renewable wouldn’t you just tell him.
We aren’t renewing your scholarship?


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re: Josh Belk say's Muschamp threatened to pull......
I think the majority could pull a scholly, but we have stated:
“All athletically related scholarships provided to incoming freshmen will be four-year agreements that outline the amount of aid to be provided during each fall and spring term of the student’s academic career.”

“These scholarships may not be reduced or non-renewed for athletically-related reasons.”
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I Bleed Garnet
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re: Josh Belk say's Muschamp threatened to pull......
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I think the majority could pull a scholly, but we have stated:
“All athletically related scholarships provided to incoming freshmen will be four-year agreements that outline the amount of aid to be provided during each fall and spring term of the student’s academic career.”

“These scholarships may not be reduced or non-renewed for athletically-related reasons.”


Yea I’m not a fan of this


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re: Josh Belk say's Muschamp threatened to pull......
Belk is a lazy pos.


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ConwayGamecock
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re: Josh Belk say's Muschamp threatened to pull......
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Yes I know that
What about a kid that just doesn’t get hurt and is bad
Does everyone get a 4 year deal? Or just select few?

Say we sign some RB. His freshman year we realize we messed up the evaluation
He’s just not good. And every year as he gets older he still just isn’t good and can’t beat anyone on the depth chart.
BUT, he’s a good kid, goes to class, goes to practice, does what we ask him. But every year he gets older a new kid that comes in is better than him and beats him out.
It’s going into his senior year and he’s 5th on the depth chart and we have some high 4 star (maybe even a 5.. but lol yea i know) coming in which would probably push him back further .

And he just loves being here, what can we do?



It's a YES and NO answer. It's basically both.

There is no such thing as a totally guaranteed scholarship for 4 years, despite what the school tells you. There has always been conditions that apply.

If a kid gets a so-called 4-year scholarship, enrolls at the college, starts taking classes, joins the team and starts practicing, and then rapes some girl at college, that school is NOT going to let that kid stay at school and keep his scholarship. He's history.

Same thing, if that kid just decides to NOT practice, to not engage in team-related things, does not work out like the coaches tell him to, does not go to class and take exams and get good grades. He's also history.

If that kid follows all the rules and conditions for his scholarship, then he gets to stay on it. And they call it a 4-year thing, but it's really a 1-year thing, that - if he follows the conditions - rolls over into a 2-yr, then a 3-yr, then a 4-yr, until that kid gets his college degree.

Colleges can call the scholarship whatever they like, but regardless if it's a 1-year deal, or a 10-year deal, if that kid fails to follow the rules in the 1st year, or the 9th year, he loses his scholarship, and he's history. It's always been that way.....

BUT.....

If that kid follows the rules & conditions, goes to class, practices hard and does everything asked of him, then he keeps that scholarship until he gets his college degree. He's not supposed to just have it yanked out from under him by the staff, because he can't ever move up the depth chart. Becoming a starter, a major contributor, an all-conference star or first-round NFL pick, isn't part of those conditions for getting and keeping a scholarship. They never were.

The staff can talk with him and tell him that his opportunity to play and contribute may be taken away, and given to younger players underneath him, and he may decide to go elsewhere for better playing opportunities. But otherwise, he can just choose to stay in the program and finish up his degree. It places an added emphasis on a coachign staff to better evaluate and better develop the players they recruit and offer scholarships to and accept commitments and letters of intent from. And that's OK, as those staffs should have that emphasis placed on them to begin with.


USC put out a statement regarding Belk that states the coaching staff will never pull a scholarship from a FB player for medical reason. Having your athletic scholarship taken away from you, due to being injured from participating in an athletic program, for which you got that athletic scholarship for, is a big NO-NO. For any coach to do that would be a recruiting nightmare for that program.

And it is totally unnecessary, with the option of a medical red-shirt (if that injury is not career-ending) and a medical hardship waiver (if it is) that keeps the player on scholarship and in class working towards his college degree, while he either heals up and gets healthy, or while his playing career is ended due to injury (or physical condition, as some players are deemed not able to continue playing due to genetic disorders or medical situations not related to any sport-related injury, such as Tavyn Jackson's sickle-cell condition). It doesn't cost the program any scholarships, and gives that program the chance to get the player healed and able to contribute, or it gives that player the chance to get his college degree, while the program doesn't lose an athletic scholarship from it's 85 total. It's a win-win situation.

So to just pull a scholarship out from under a player who is injured in any capacity is just a foolish and unnecessary thing for a coaching staff to do. My opinion is, that Coach Muschamp did not THREATEN to pull Belk's scholly, he WARNED Belk that he could lose that scholarship, if Belk refused to follow the guidance on rehabbing his injury, like the medical staff and trainers were advising him to do.

Belk did not get his scholarship pulled, he essentially up and walked away from it, which was a very stupid thing for him to do, IMO.....
This post was edited on 9/10 at 1:46 pm


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