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God Damned You Tanner and BOT
Posted on 12/5/21 at 5:22 pm
Posted on 12/5/21 at 5:22 pm
You miserably stupid fricks picked the worst time yet again to make another dog shite hire.
Every program in the SEC has a coach any other program would want, but Carolina and fricking Vandy.
If Venables let alone Dabo leaves any solid Coach would be in the position to get us back to in state dominance. And we’re sitting here with fricking Dereck Dooley 2.0 instead of Chadwell or fricking anything.
No offense Beamer, but you’re a recruiting coordinator or maybe a position coach. And nothing more, your dog shite coordinator hires were proof out of the gate.
Every program in the SEC has a coach any other program would want, but Carolina and fricking Vandy.
If Venables let alone Dabo leaves any solid Coach would be in the position to get us back to in state dominance. And we’re sitting here with fricking Dereck Dooley 2.0 instead of Chadwell or fricking anything.
No offense Beamer, but you’re a recruiting coordinator or maybe a position coach. And nothing more, your dog shite coordinator hires were proof out of the gate.
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Posted on 12/5/21 at 10:04 pm to HalfCocked
100 %
Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:11 am to HalfCocked
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Every program in the SEC has a coach any other program would want, but Carolina and fricking Vandy.
I'm no Tanner fan, but there were tons of credible reports out there that Oklahoma's #2 choice behind BV was Beamer. So the above statement really isn't true.
I was TOTALLY against the Beamer hire a year ago. But with the lens of time, I can say I was 100% wrong. Growing pains aside, I think he's the right guy for the job.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:56 am to HalfCocked
melt much?
Beamer is a good coach, he gained a lot of respect from people. the guy won twice as many games as Vegas thought, and probably more than you expected us to win.
also I get that Atkins and Satt were not good this year, but Clayton White and Lambo did quite well this year as coordinators
Beamer is a good coach, he gained a lot of respect from people. the guy won twice as many games as Vegas thought, and probably more than you expected us to win.
also I get that Atkins and Satt were not good this year, but Clayton White and Lambo did quite well this year as coordinators
This post was edited on 12/6/21 at 8:58 am
Posted on 12/6/21 at 1:46 pm to Lonnie Utah
Lonnie I've read that nonsense too and I respect you. But no chance in hell they replace Riley with Beamer.....UNLESS they give him $20 million a season for OC and DC. Which is exactly what my point is.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 1:52 pm to GamecockUltimate
Reading comprehension much?
I made a post a week ago owning most of what you typed up. I never said he was a bad coach but we all know we got lucky with Florida and definitely Auburn. The guys had the right attitude and scratched and clawed their way. We lose those two games next season bigly. Because we have 0 fawking Offense. He's not a long term solution and if anyone else wanted him, they'd have easily taken him.
From 2 months ago:
Nick Saban, Alabama: $9,753,221 — No. 1
Ed Orgeron, LSU: $9,012,917 — No. 2
Dan Mullen, Florida: $7,570,000 — No. 6
Jimbo Fisher, Texas A&M: $7,500,000 — No. 7
Kirby Smart, Georgia: $7,133,600 — No. 8
Mark Stoops, Kentucky: $5,263,600 — No. 15
Bryan Harsin, Auburn: $5,000,000 — No. 19
Mike Leach, Mississippi State: $5,000,000 — No. 20
Lane Kiffin, Ole Miss: $4,841,937 — No. 21
Josh Heupel, Tennessee: $4,000,000 — No. 35
Eli Drinkwitz, Missouri: $4,000,000 — No. 36
Sam Pittman, Arkansas: $2,925,000 — No. 54
Shane Beamer, South Carolina: $2,750,000 — No. 58
Pretty clear we give no fricks about winning or investing in winning.
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I made a post a week ago owning most of what you typed up. I never said he was a bad coach but we all know we got lucky with Florida and definitely Auburn. The guys had the right attitude and scratched and clawed their way. We lose those two games next season bigly. Because we have 0 fawking Offense. He's not a long term solution and if anyone else wanted him, they'd have easily taken him.
From 2 months ago:
Nick Saban, Alabama: $9,753,221 — No. 1
Ed Orgeron, LSU: $9,012,917 — No. 2
Dan Mullen, Florida: $7,570,000 — No. 6
Jimbo Fisher, Texas A&M: $7,500,000 — No. 7
Kirby Smart, Georgia: $7,133,600 — No. 8
Mark Stoops, Kentucky: $5,263,600 — No. 15
Bryan Harsin, Auburn: $5,000,000 — No. 19
Mike Leach, Mississippi State: $5,000,000 — No. 20
Lane Kiffin, Ole Miss: $4,841,937 — No. 21
Josh Heupel, Tennessee: $4,000,000 — No. 35
Eli Drinkwitz, Missouri: $4,000,000 — No. 36
Sam Pittman, Arkansas: $2,925,000 — No. 54
Shane Beamer, South Carolina: $2,750,000 — No. 58
Pretty clear we give no fricks about winning or investing in winning.
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 2:48 pm to HalfCocked
So you believe the amount we pay a coach determines our desire for success?
Did we not just get into a mess by overpaying a guy who had zero business being our HC?
looking at this list I see many new coaches down towards the bottom. Sam Pittman, Eli, Heupel. I cant honestly believe the amount you pay a coach determines how good he is.
now youll probably say that just means that if he was/is a good coach that some school would offer him 5mil and steal him. I am sure some schools want a wait and see period of 3 or 4 years before they honestly try to offer him big money. That doesnt mean it wasnt a good hire. Heck Kiffin is only at 4.8 mil, He is a good coach, why did no one offer him 8 and steal him. It doesnt always work that way. Beamer wants to be here
Florida was not lucky, a 20 point win isnt lucky, they just played like trash for the last half the year. Auburn we were lucky that Bobo didnt run the ball on 4th down, but we played pretty well that game. We deserved to win that game. for reference Auburn paid 5 mil for a guy to pull Bobo away from us. Great investment
I do get we dont always agree on things, but saying this was a dog shite hire after year one was an overall success is a little strange to me. Looking at Ray's hires, I am at about a 50% hit rate for him. Holbrook was a good hire, he ended up being a dogshit coach, but he was rated the top assistant. I still think Kingston was a good hire, its debateable but I like the hire so far, especially over monte Lee. Will Muschamp was not a good hire, but I think Beamer could end up being just what SC needs. give it time.
* Tanner is a shite AD though, for the record not saying he is good.
Did we not just get into a mess by overpaying a guy who had zero business being our HC?
looking at this list I see many new coaches down towards the bottom. Sam Pittman, Eli, Heupel. I cant honestly believe the amount you pay a coach determines how good he is.
now youll probably say that just means that if he was/is a good coach that some school would offer him 5mil and steal him. I am sure some schools want a wait and see period of 3 or 4 years before they honestly try to offer him big money. That doesnt mean it wasnt a good hire. Heck Kiffin is only at 4.8 mil, He is a good coach, why did no one offer him 8 and steal him. It doesnt always work that way. Beamer wants to be here
Florida was not lucky, a 20 point win isnt lucky, they just played like trash for the last half the year. Auburn we were lucky that Bobo didnt run the ball on 4th down, but we played pretty well that game. We deserved to win that game. for reference Auburn paid 5 mil for a guy to pull Bobo away from us. Great investment
I do get we dont always agree on things, but saying this was a dog shite hire after year one was an overall success is a little strange to me. Looking at Ray's hires, I am at about a 50% hit rate for him. Holbrook was a good hire, he ended up being a dogshit coach, but he was rated the top assistant. I still think Kingston was a good hire, its debateable but I like the hire so far, especially over monte Lee. Will Muschamp was not a good hire, but I think Beamer could end up being just what SC needs. give it time.
* Tanner is a shite AD though, for the record not saying he is good.
This post was edited on 12/6/21 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 12/6/21 at 3:17 pm to HalfCocked
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Sam Pittman, Arkansas: $2,925,000 — No. 54
Pittman, it should be noted, is likely to get PAID after this season and how he drug Arkansas back from the pits of hell.
He was, however, a big reach as a coach. Yet, despite playing the toughest schedule in college football, we won 8 games and are going bowling. Two years ago we were had not won an SEC game in two years. He's earned his upgrade.
So salary does not a coach make. You hired Beamer on a very similar "we are swinging for the fences so we aren't paying top dollar" approach. Well now it seems like it was a pretty good hire. There is nothing wrong, and a lot right, with hiring someone cheap and then bumping up their salary when they show you they can do the job.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 4:25 pm to GamecockUltimate
Jesus aged Christ you guys don't get what I'm saying. He's not a real head coach, if he were we would not have been his first head coaching gig. Look at who he's worked under? Look at his pedigree? He can't coach O (spurrier) and he cant coach D (Venables). He's nothing more than a players position coach (tight ends) or a recruiter coordinator.
I'm fully aware that Retard Tanner through the kitchen sink at Muschamp, never was a fan of that hire at any price.
Beamer is the lowest paid coach in the SEC, likely less than Clark Lee.
Arkansas hired Pittman the same way (unknown position coach). BUT threw the kitchen sink at an Offensive Coordinator and a Defensive Coordinator. This is called the "Dabo Method". Meanwhile we hired dog shite to coach the O and the D unlike Arkansas.
So we go cheap with a guy who can't coach O or D. Then we go cheap on his support staff. Meanwhile we play with our buttholes for another 2 years until we rinse and repeat while the rest of the SEC makes an effort and puts money where their mouth is.
I have no idea how else to explain this.
I'm fully aware that Retard Tanner through the kitchen sink at Muschamp, never was a fan of that hire at any price.
Beamer is the lowest paid coach in the SEC, likely less than Clark Lee.
Arkansas hired Pittman the same way (unknown position coach). BUT threw the kitchen sink at an Offensive Coordinator and a Defensive Coordinator. This is called the "Dabo Method". Meanwhile we hired dog shite to coach the O and the D unlike Arkansas.
So we go cheap with a guy who can't coach O or D. Then we go cheap on his support staff. Meanwhile we play with our buttholes for another 2 years until we rinse and repeat while the rest of the SEC makes an effort and puts money where their mouth is.
I have no idea how else to explain this.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:12 pm to HalfCocked
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He's not a real head coach, if he were we would not have been his first head coaching gig. Look at who he's worked under? Look at his pedigree? He can't coach O (spurrier) and he cant coach D (Venables). He's nothing more than a players position coach (tight ends) or a recruiter coordinator.
Technically, he was officially the assistant head coach at Okie.
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 9:20 pm to HalfCocked
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Lonnie I've read that nonsense too and I respect you. But no chance in hell they replace Riley with Beamer.....UNLESS they give him $20 million a season for OC and DC. Which is exactly what my point is.
Agreed completely here
Posted on 12/6/21 at 9:21 pm to Arksulli
I give Pittman a ton of props
He like Beamer had NO business being head coaches
But Pittman did a great job this year
He like Beamer had NO business being head coaches
But Pittman did a great job this year
Posted on 12/7/21 at 6:24 am to HalfCocked
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Lonnie I've read that nonsense too and I respect you. But no chance in hell they replace Riley with Beamer.....UNLESS they give him $20 million a season for OC and DC. Which is exactly what my point is.
From what I've heard of the situation, it wasn't Beamer's football IQ that captured their interest, but his character. Contrasted against how LR left OK, they were looking for a coach the would be loyal.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 10:44 am to Lonnie Utah
Have to admit that’s a huge flag for me
What Riley did is just a big head scratcher
What Riley did is just a big head scratcher
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 12/8/21 at 12:04 pm to HalfCocked
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Jesus aged Christ you guys don't get what I'm saying. He's not a real head coach, if he were we would not have been his first head coaching gig. Look at who he's worked under? Look at his pedigree? He can't coach O (spurrier) and he cant coach D (Venables). He's nothing more than a players position coach (tight ends) or a recruiter coordinator.
I'm fully aware that Retard Tanner through the kitchen sink at Muschamp, never was a fan of that hire at any price.
Beamer is the lowest paid coach in the SEC, likely less than Clark Lee.
Arkansas hired Pittman the same way (unknown position coach). BUT threw the kitchen sink at an Offensive Coordinator and a Defensive Coordinator. This is called the "Dabo Method". Meanwhile we hired dog shite to coach the O and the D unlike Arkansas.
So we go cheap with a guy who can't coach O or D. Then we go cheap on his support staff. Meanwhile we play with our buttholes for another 2 years until we rinse and repeat while the rest of the SEC makes an effort and puts money where their mouth is.
I have no idea how else to explain this.
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