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Clowney or Ingy?
Posted on 2/25/13 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 2/25/13 at 9:29 pm
Who's better?
Posted on 2/25/13 at 9:41 pm to deeprig9
Nobody has ever called him Ingy to my knowledge.
Posted on 2/25/13 at 9:55 pm to CockInYourEar
My gamecock buddy in Mount Pleasant always called him Ingy, so I just thought that was his nick name. I guess it was just his own personal thingy.
Posted on 2/25/13 at 9:55 pm to CockInYourEar
If you compare each of their 2nd seasons, Clowney is much further ahead, but he was starting and Ingram was not at that point.
Ingram had great stats his last 2 years, and really awesome stats his Sr year, fake punt for a TD even and a couple INT's, to go along with 10 sacks.
Clowney could have an amazing Jr season, we'll see what happens. Clowney already has the most sacks and TFL's in a season when comparing the two.
Ingram had great stats his last 2 years, and really awesome stats his Sr year, fake punt for a TD even and a couple INT's, to go along with 10 sacks.
Clowney could have an amazing Jr season, we'll see what happens. Clowney already has the most sacks and TFL's in a season when comparing the two.
This post was edited on 2/26/13 at 6:41 am
Posted on 2/25/13 at 9:56 pm to CockInYourEar
Ingy?
I'll assume you're talking about MI6. AKA the Lineman that ran a 60+ yard punt fake on y'all.
I hate to compare Gamecocks but I would have to say Clowney is better.
I hate to compare Gamecocks but I would have to say Clowney is better.
Posted on 2/25/13 at 10:07 pm to CockRocket
clowney without question. MI6 was a freak in his own right though.
Posted on 2/26/13 at 7:31 am to deeprig9
Clowney. Ingram was a monster late in his career, but Clowney was a monster from the second he stepped on the field.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 12:37 pm to JimMorrison
We've been fortunate to have 3 great pass rushers in a row the past 6-7 years or so:
Norwood:
2006: 30 tkls, 9.0 TFL, 7.0 sks
2007: 69 tkls, 19.5# TFL, 6.0 sks
2008: 74 tkls, 14.5 TFL, 9.0# sks
2009: 81 tkls, 11.5 TFL, 7.0 sks
TOTAL: 254 tkls, 54.5 TFL*, 29.0 sks*
Ingram:
2007: 15 tkls, 1.0 TFL, 1.0 sks
2008: DNP
2009: 18 tkls, 3.5 TFL, 1.5 sks
2010: 28 tkls, 11.0 TFL, 9.0# sks
2011: 48 tkls, 15.0 TFL, 10.0# sks
TOTAL: 109 tkls, 30.5 TFL, 21.5 sks
Clowney:
2011: 36 tkls, 12.0 TFL, 8.0 sks
2012: 54 tkls, 23.5# TFL, 13.0# sks
TOTAL: 90 tkls, 35.5 TFL, 21.0 sks
* Program career records
# Set or tied single season program records
If Clowney can at least match his numbers from '13, he will break Norwood's career TFL and QB sack records in 3 years that took Eric 4 to accomplish.
Norwood was a coach's 1st-team All-SEC selection his final 3 seasons at USC, the first as a DL and last 2 as a LB. Ingram only started his final season at USC in 2011 but was voted 1st-team All-SEC that year, and Clowney was 1st-team All-SEC last season.
IMO, Norwood and Clowney make the better comparison in terms of straight game-impact by rushing the edge and pressuring QBs. Melvin was certainly a beast his final 2 seasons - as a back-up to Taylor and Cliff Matthews in 2010, he led the team in sacks, and exploded in 2011 in his final season as a starter - but he spent his first 2 seasons struggling to find a position on the field. At one point in '09 he was seriously considered by the staff being moved to fullback.
But Norwood comes closest to Clowney IMO in terms of immediate impact to the defense as a contributor. Eric was a 1st-team freshman All-American and All-SEC in '06, and he never wavered or fell off his entire career either as a 240-lb. DE or 270-lb. OLB. Norwood wasn't as highly touted as Clowney coming out of high school, but he immediately became a source of fan excitement as a defensive leader for many years, and he never disappointed. Melvin did too, but by the time he arrived, it was his final season as a Gamecock...
Norwood:
2006: 30 tkls, 9.0 TFL, 7.0 sks
2007: 69 tkls, 19.5# TFL, 6.0 sks
2008: 74 tkls, 14.5 TFL, 9.0# sks
2009: 81 tkls, 11.5 TFL, 7.0 sks
TOTAL: 254 tkls, 54.5 TFL*, 29.0 sks*
Ingram:
2007: 15 tkls, 1.0 TFL, 1.0 sks
2008: DNP
2009: 18 tkls, 3.5 TFL, 1.5 sks
2010: 28 tkls, 11.0 TFL, 9.0# sks
2011: 48 tkls, 15.0 TFL, 10.0# sks
TOTAL: 109 tkls, 30.5 TFL, 21.5 sks
Clowney:
2011: 36 tkls, 12.0 TFL, 8.0 sks
2012: 54 tkls, 23.5# TFL, 13.0# sks
TOTAL: 90 tkls, 35.5 TFL, 21.0 sks
* Program career records
# Set or tied single season program records
If Clowney can at least match his numbers from '13, he will break Norwood's career TFL and QB sack records in 3 years that took Eric 4 to accomplish.
Norwood was a coach's 1st-team All-SEC selection his final 3 seasons at USC, the first as a DL and last 2 as a LB. Ingram only started his final season at USC in 2011 but was voted 1st-team All-SEC that year, and Clowney was 1st-team All-SEC last season.
IMO, Norwood and Clowney make the better comparison in terms of straight game-impact by rushing the edge and pressuring QBs. Melvin was certainly a beast his final 2 seasons - as a back-up to Taylor and Cliff Matthews in 2010, he led the team in sacks, and exploded in 2011 in his final season as a starter - but he spent his first 2 seasons struggling to find a position on the field. At one point in '09 he was seriously considered by the staff being moved to fullback.
But Norwood comes closest to Clowney IMO in terms of immediate impact to the defense as a contributor. Eric was a 1st-team freshman All-American and All-SEC in '06, and he never wavered or fell off his entire career either as a 240-lb. DE or 270-lb. OLB. Norwood wasn't as highly touted as Clowney coming out of high school, but he immediately became a source of fan excitement as a defensive leader for many years, and he never disappointed. Melvin did too, but by the time he arrived, it was his final season as a Gamecock...
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