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SEC Basketball - How teams in the conference play offense

Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:26 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:26 am
SEC CBB Team Stats - Play by Play Splits

Interesting stat breakout from Torvik. This isn't measuring how successful those shots are, just where teams take their shots.


SEC Teams Ranked by Types of Shots (% of total shots)


CLOSE 2s
1. Auburn (41.0%)
2. Vanderbilt (39.5%)
3. Georgia (38.2%)
4. Miss St (37.5%)
5. LSU (36.5%)
6. Alabama (35.9%)
7. Texas A&M (34.9%)
8. Missouri (34.3%)
9. Kentucky (33.7%)
10. Florida (33.4%)
11. Ole Miss (31.6%)
12. Tennessee (31.2%)
13. Arkansas (30.2%)
14. South Carolina (29.6%)


MID-RANGE 2s
1. South Carolina (40.7%)
2. Kentucky (39.8%)
3. Ole Miss (34.7%)
4. Miss St (34.6%)
5. Tennessee (32.7%)
6. Arkansas (29.9%)
6. Florida (29.9%)
8. LSU (29.1%)
9. Missouri (25.3%)
10. Texas A&M (24.0%)
11. Georgia (23.1%)
12. Vanderbilt (16.3%)
13. Alabama (15.1%)
14. Auburn (14.9%)


THREE POINTERS
1. Alabama (49.0%)
2. Vanderbilt (44.3%)
3. Auburn (44.1%)
4. Texas A&M (41.1%)
5. Missouri (40.4%)
6. Arkansas (39.9%)
7. Georgia (38.7%)
8. Florida (36.7%)
9. Tennessee (36.1%)
10. LSU (34.3%)
11. Ole Miss (33.7%)
12. South Carolina (29.7%)
13. Miss St (28.0%)
14. Kentucky (26.6%)
This post was edited on 3/3/21 at 10:43 am
Posted by Bean127
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:29 am to
Alabama really does live and die by the three
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:33 am to
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Alabama really does live and die by the three



Sure, but the idea is the value of every 3PT is higher than the value of every long 2PT shot when you take into account the difference in difficulty of the two shots. A 3PT shot is worth 50% more than a 2PT shot, so if you are going to shoot mid-range jumpers you better shoot them at an insanely high rate to make up for the difference in points.

Ideally our % of shots at the rim would be higher, but this team doesn't have a lot of great finishers so we've had to adjust to more outside shots.
This post was edited on 3/3/21 at 10:34 am
Posted by Hogsrunwild
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:35 am to
% of total shots:

Alabama
42.3% Dunks/Close 2's
15.1% Mid-range 2's
49% 3's

106%...

Close 2' contain dunks, so the 6% dunks needs to be removed from the 'close 2' category. So it would be 35.9 Close 2's/Dunks, not 42%
This post was edited on 3/3/21 at 10:39 am
Posted by Bean127
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:35 am to
I actually do like the way Alabama plays, I really want Wade to try and get Cam Thomas some good 3 point shots, instead of just chucking them up with no plan
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:36 am to
Yea - not sure. They may count some shots in multiple categories?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:38 am to
quote:

I actually do like the way Alabama plays, I really want Wade to try and get Cam Thomas some good 3 point shots, instead of just chucking them up with no plan



Yea I mean it still all comes down to whether the shots you take are good shots in rhythm. The general ethos of the offense is important, but if you are just chucking up bad shots (either from 3 or at the rim) then you aren't really accomplishing anything.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:39 am to
quote:

MID-RANGE 2s
2. Kentucky (39.8%)

THREE POINTERS
14. Kentucky (26.6%)


Cal content to let the game pass him by. The Les Miles of basketball.

Posted by Hogsrunwild
Member since Nov 2006
177 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:40 am to
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Yea - not sure. They may count some shots in multiple categories?




Yeah, close 2's contain dunks, so while the are separate columns, dunks also reside in the close 2 column.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:40 am to
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Yeah, close 2's contain dunks, so while the are separate columns, dunks also reside in the close 2 column.



Ah - that makes sense. I combined them figuring they were separate.
Posted by Bean127
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:41 am to
would like to incorporate some pick and roll
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:43 am to
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Ideally our % of shots at the rim would be higher, but this team doesn't have a lot of great finishers so we've had to adjust to more outside shots.




And the best defense Nate Oats has ever coached.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:44 am to
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MID-RANGE 2s


quote:

13. Alabama (15.1%)


Where does close end and mid-range begin? Because I struggle to see how roughly 1 in every 7 shots we take is a mid-range 2. Maybe 1 in every 20.
This post was edited on 3/3/21 at 10:45 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:46 am to
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Where does close end and mid-range begin? Because I struggle to see how roughly 1 in every 7 shots we take is a mid-range 2. Maybe 1 in every 20.



He doesn't define it, but my assumption would be anything outside of the key (the general mid-range definition). However, his could be more like anything outside of 3 feet or something, since the alternative is "Close Rim".
This post was edited on 3/3/21 at 10:48 am
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