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University of Alabama Ranks Second Among Publics for Enrollment of National Merit Scholars

Posted on 4/23/19 at 11:45 am
Posted by InGAButLoveBama
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 11:45 am
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Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 11:45 am to
Considering that Oklahoma held that title for many years...


...congrats....I guess.
Posted by BoerneAg
Hill Country, God's Country
Member since Apr 2019
2329 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 11:47 am to
Oklahoma would not shut the frick up about this stat whenever I was applying to schools. It was on every piece of Oklahoma marketing.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 11:48 am to
Such a meaningless stat
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 11:49 am to
quote:

Ranks Second


aka last
Posted by Robert Goulet
Member since Jan 2013
9999 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 11:49 am to
Recruiting students from outside the state of Alabama has really helped academics ,it seems. If I recall correctly over half the student body is from out of state.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 11:51 am to
Sweet, tell that to Goldman Sachs when you give them your resume.
Posted by CoachMoorGut
Member since Sep 2018
725 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 11:55 am to
This bit of marketing always bothered me. Just because Alabama pays through the nose if you're a National Merit Scholar doesn't mean that everyone else there is smarter, or even that Alabama is teaching those National Merit Scholars either.

Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 12:01 pm to
nB4 the UGA retard stinks up this thread...
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 12:32 pm to
Those 614 students can not overshadow the other 38K students. That is why that stat is just another PR ploy.
Posted by InGAButLoveBama
Member since Jan 2018
924 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 1:09 pm to
Here I go again, busting out the facts. Since UA has such a large freshman class, we can look at its top 25th percentile ACT score and see that it enrolls more top students (ACT of 32 or higher) than all other SEC schools, except for Texas A&M (which has by far the largest freshman class). But yeah, that is a meaningless stat. Right.

There is no way so many top students would keep coming to UA year after year if it did not have the programs and facilities to offer these young people a great education. Just because UA also enrolls a lot of lower tier students does not change this fact, especially considering that most top students at UA take many of their classes in the school's Honors Program. Honors classes are much smaller and have much more challenging assignments, the perfect prep for Med School, Law School, or graduate work.
This post was edited on 4/23/19 at 1:11 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

Here I go again, busting out the facts. Since UA has such a large freshman class, we can look at its top 25th percentile ACT score and see that it enrolls more top students (ACT of 32 or higher) than all other SEC schools, except for Texas A&M (which has by far the largest freshman class). But yeah, that is a meaningless stat. Right.

There is no way so many top students would keep coming to UA year after year if it did not have the programs and facilities to offer these young people a great education. Just because UA also enrolls a lot of lower tier students does not change this fact, especially considering that most top students at UA take many of their classes in the school's Honors Program. Honors classes are much smaller and have much more challenging assignments, the perfect prep for Med School, Law School, or graduate work.



UA is essentially paying those high academic students to attend the University. Not just a break even point for the Students, actually an income generating source for those individuals. The University is doing it to skew the overall numbers so they can attract other students to meet their growth plan. The questions are, how does it affect the in-state student and their tuition, does it deprive those same students scholarship potential.
Posted by mulletproof
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 8:47 am to
Why did you have to go bringing the truth into this thread?
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
Cloud 8
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 11:38 am to
Posted by johnfredlsu
Member since Feb 2007
548 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 11:07 pm to
Good questions to raise.

List is also odd in that none of the Ivies are listed. Nor is Stanford or MIT. Duke wasn’t on it but Northwestern and Vanderbilt are, albeit with smaller numbers than UF, A&M, and that third-rate school in Tuscaloosa. So, I’m not sure how to interpret this list...
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