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Half of First Round Selections were 3 *s or lower
Posted on 4/30/18 at 10:37 pm
Posted on 4/30/18 at 10:37 pm
By Pat Dooley Gainesville Sun
11. People get the wrong idea about me when it comes to recruiting. No, I don’t slobber all over commitments or spend too much time worrying about recruiting rankings, but I do understand the importance of getting the best players possible. The development part of it is just as important as getting players with a lot of stars after their names. The NFL draft is a good example in that half of the first-round picks were rated as three stars or lower. It doesn’t mean you don’t want to get five stars, but if you see potential in a player and can bring the best out of him through weight training and coaching, you’re going to be fine.
11. People get the wrong idea about me when it comes to recruiting. No, I don’t slobber all over commitments or spend too much time worrying about recruiting rankings, but I do understand the importance of getting the best players possible. The development part of it is just as important as getting players with a lot of stars after their names. The NFL draft is a good example in that half of the first-round picks were rated as three stars or lower. It doesn’t mean you don’t want to get five stars, but if you see potential in a player and can bring the best out of him through weight training and coaching, you’re going to be fine.
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Posted on 4/30/18 at 11:19 pm to reel_gator8
I think stars do matter, and if we took the draft as a whole it would look a lot different. However, I don't think it's absolutely necessary to get big names with big stars to have big results.
Mullen has had three players that got their 4th star by ESPN in the last month, and the rest will probably follow suit. Seeing talent and potential, then molding it to your vision is way more important than just recruiting talent.
I hope we have the depth and roster management that permits us to at least have kids have a year in the system before being thrown out to the wolves like last year due to suspension and injury.
Mullen has had three players that got their 4th star by ESPN in the last month, and the rest will probably follow suit. Seeing talent and potential, then molding it to your vision is way more important than just recruiting talent.
I hope we have the depth and roster management that permits us to at least have kids have a year in the system before being thrown out to the wolves like last year due to suspension and injury.
Posted on 5/1/18 at 6:49 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
This is what we said during the Mac era because he sucked.
There are 100s of 3* for every 5*. There are roughly 25 to 35 5* and about 15 to 25 of them get drafted.
There are 100s of 3* for every 5*. There are roughly 25 to 35 5* and about 15 to 25 of them get drafted.
Posted on 5/1/18 at 10:42 am to reel_gator8
Stars matter. PERIOD.
The only reason we ever post stuff like this is when recruiting is shite.
The only reason we ever post stuff like this is when recruiting is shite.
Posted on 5/1/18 at 11:44 am to slayerxing
No one is saying they don't matter, or at least I hope Reel isn't saying that.
Stars matter, but they're not the only factor. A three star can, indeed, do something really goood. We'd prefer a team full of 4 and 5 stars, but it's not right to write someone off solely based on that.
I'm personally really happy to see half of the class as it currently stands gain their 4th stars.
Stars matter, but they're not the only factor. A three star can, indeed, do something really goood. We'd prefer a team full of 4 and 5 stars, but it's not right to write someone off solely based on that.
I'm personally really happy to see half of the class as it currently stands gain their 4th stars.
Posted on 5/1/18 at 12:29 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Five stars matter at skill positions - QB, RB, WR, LT, DE/OLB, and to a lesser extent CB. That's where you need the best of the best to get on the field as early as possible and win the matchups that will decide games.
Outside of that, stars don't matter outside of a 50% Blue chip percentage.
You could give me two 5-star safeties and a 5-star TE and MLB and a couple 5-star Guards, but if my QB sucks and I can't rush the passer, it won't matter one bit.
Even in areas where stars don't matter, how the actual frick have we not had a playmaking punt returner since Brandon James?
Outside of that, stars don't matter outside of a 50% Blue chip percentage.
You could give me two 5-star safeties and a 5-star TE and MLB and a couple 5-star Guards, but if my QB sucks and I can't rush the passer, it won't matter one bit.
Even in areas where stars don't matter, how the actual frick have we not had a playmaking punt returner since Brandon James?
Posted on 5/1/18 at 3:15 pm to reel_gator8
you do you under stand recruiting rankings right ? There is about 50-70 5 stars a year and maybe 300 4 star recruits. But there is 100K or more 3 star or lower . Recruiting matters and everyone knows it. The top recruiting teams always win the championship.
Posted on 5/1/18 at 3:52 pm to tjv305
The difference between a .89 and a .90 (a 3 and 4 star respectively) is incredibly minimal in the same way .92 and .98 is actually really small.
Muth' had a good explanation -- you really want your skill positions to be highly rated, but the line really doesn't need it too much.
Reel isn't wrong when he says that half of the first round selections were 3*s or lower, but it obviously doesn't paint the complete picture. I'm personally not aversed to taking some risks with lower rated players who have a lot of potential and keep themselves clean, who also happen to love the program.
Muth' had a good explanation -- you really want your skill positions to be highly rated, but the line really doesn't need it too much.
Reel isn't wrong when he says that half of the first round selections were 3*s or lower, but it obviously doesn't paint the complete picture. I'm personally not aversed to taking some risks with lower rated players who have a lot of potential and keep themselves clean, who also happen to love the program.
Posted on 5/1/18 at 6:14 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Oh..ok I get it now....there was half of first rounders in the draft because there are more 3* s...sheez why didn't I think of that?
I posted this to get everyone telling me stars matter. Cool, it worked.
I posted this to get everyone telling me stars matter. Cool, it worked.
Posted on 5/1/18 at 7:17 pm to reel_gator8
Stars matter. everywhere. Not just skill positions. It’s not the only thing that matters but it’s certainly very fricking important.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 5:47 am to reel_gator8
Because there are significantly less four and five stars..makes sense logically.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 8:01 am to reel_gator8
IMO, ratings matter, but that is not to say that there are not players who were not highly rated out of high school that become superstars in college and in the NFL. Gator history is littered with these diamonds in the rough. Good coaching can create something better than stars, Winners!
Posted on 5/3/18 at 9:38 pm to UFMatt
Gee...start with the SEC POY Kerwin Bell out of Mayo Fl who NOBODY wanted and WALKED ON at UF.
Our best ever safety was Belle Glades Louis Oliver, a first round pick who WALKED ON at UF. A lot of Gator rosters have been adorned with lowly rated high school players over the years and they turned out pretty damn good.
Our best ever safety was Belle Glades Louis Oliver, a first round pick who WALKED ON at UF. A lot of Gator rosters have been adorned with lowly rated high school players over the years and they turned out pretty damn good.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 7:59 am to reel_gator8
My 5 biggest factors for evaluating recruits would be;
1) Is he a winner?
2) Does he want to be a Gator?
3) What is his upside?
4) Is he coach-able?
5) Is he a good representative of the university?
Then, oh by the way, how many stars does he have in the recruiting services?
1) Is he a winner?
2) Does he want to be a Gator?
3) What is his upside?
4) Is he coach-able?
5) Is he a good representative of the university?
Then, oh by the way, how many stars does he have in the recruiting services?
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