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Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:49 am to
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:49 am to
Roquan (top defensive player) is not Kirby's.
Wims (top receiver) is not Kirby's.
Godwin (second top receiver) is not Kirby's.
Chubb (top rusher) is not Kirby's.
Michel (second top rusher) is not Kirby's.
Carter (top pass rusher) is not Kirby's.
Walker (second top pass rusher) is not Kirby's.
Sanders (Leading intercepting back) is not Kirby's.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:40 am to
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You Georgia fans

I mean... I can make blanket statements about Florida fans as well, but mostly I was unaware that Kerryon Johnson was a significant contributor on the defensive side of the ball... Him being in the game most certainly had *an* impact... but that was his and/or Gus' choice... sorry they didn't have the backfield depth to weather the injury... or maybe they shouldn't have run him into the ground all season long?

None of that changes that we scored 28 on their defense, 4 points were negated by an illegitimate penalty, and by the end we were just running out the clock. Our OLine made adjustments and simply didn't let their defense play to what they had done previously... Lost in all the discussion here on KJ is that Stidham was objectively terrible... he had a couple of nice throws, but overall was just bad. That's not strictly on KJ or his injury... they simply didn't have the ability to rely on him as a safety valve.



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Will Muschamp, too, had quite a stellar year his second year at Florida cashing in on the talent recruited before him.


Ok...

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You've. Already. Lost.


Ok...

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You're here lurking around our boards and you say we're afraid?

I've been on your boards intermittently most of this season... Don't act like it's something new... Sorry for partying? I mean, you might be irked by a post of mine here or there, but for the most part, I'd say I call em pretty fair... whether it's about your coaching search, recruits, etc... It's not like I sit here and troll with every post.

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So don't come in here telling me every now and again Georgia rotates some WR every third drive for a play or two and it's not your running backs carrying your offense.

There you go putting words in my mouth... There is a world of difference between saying "Kirby is only winning with Richt's players" vs "Underclassmen have had a significant role in this team's success"...

Starts tells me what... one play? I tend to look at production and time on the field... thus the need to account for who rotates in. Tyler Clark has seen more time this season as a sophomore than Trenton Thompson as a Jr... regardless of who gets the start. Blazevich may play more snaps, but we run 2 TE frequently, which is generally Nauta - the only one of the 2 who receives much attention in the passing game. Swift has accounted for ~15% of our rushing attempts and 18% of our rushing yards by a running back... and is our 4th leading receiver... Mecole Hardman is third...

Second leading total tackles on the defense? JR Reed... brought in by Kirby

Leading receiver? Wims... brought in by Kirby

Ultimately, we can agree to disagree... I expect no less. But just know that you look ridiculously uninformed.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:51 am to
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Hate to burst your bubble

No burst to my bubble at all. I'm terrified of life after Roquan.

The upside is that we have rotated guys in more than you think (thanks to a ton of blowouts this year)... the downside is they gave up the shutout to Florida and made other mistakes throughout the year. In short, when it was exclusively backups, they didn't look great... which is kind of to be expected in some ways, but definitely a concern.

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Doesn't mean you cant win with the defense you will have.. as they will get better as mid season approaches, but I foresee a weaker defense early on. The SEC is a defense first conference.


100% agree... I think the best thing they have going for them is next year's schedule sets up reasonably ok.

Austin Peay tune up
@USC - going to be tough one, but would say we at least have a more talented roster... they'll have a shitload more experience
MTSU - tune up part deux
@Mizzou - Just lost Heupel as OC to UCF... likely will domino to Lock leaving for draft... if this is true, just got easier... if not.. dammit. They might score 75
Tennessee - home... who knows what they'll look like
Vandy - home...
@LSU - probably the most talented roster we'll play, uncertain what to expect out of them next season... coaching carousel may change things further (Canada?)
Bye
Bye part 2... - Gators - really don't know what to expect out of you guys yet... Mullen is a good coach, maybe not an ideal fit at QB on the roster yet? Will reserve judgement until I see what you guys put on the field to start next year.
@Kentucky - meh? pretty sure they are losing some talented kids this season
Auburn - home... too soon to tell what roster will be... like getting it at home at least
Umass - bleh... late game garbage filler
Ga Tech - home - watch out knees...


Ultimately, it's not like I see that as some slam dunk, but the hardest games are probably going to be @LSU, and Auburn at home... beyond that, too soon to tell for a lot of them. USC maybe 3rd for now? Either way, getting the trifecta of UT, AU, and GT at home this year is generally good... our OOC schedule for this season is objectively awful and sad... but I guess it's a good year for it?
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:54 am to
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Even on offense, if they're retarded enough to think that Michel and Chubb are negligible

Where the frick did this come from? You make up this weird narrative in your head that no one has said.

They have been an incredible tandem. From a pure talent standpoint, Swift has proven he's more than capable, as has Holyfield... They may not be able to equate to Chubb/Michel on their own, but we'll also have Fromm in year 2 who has shown that he is more than capable of passing... the balance of pass to run might actually shift out of the stone ages
Talented RBs joining the fold in Zamir White and James Cook, though White did have ACL surgery last week... fortunately for him, diagnosis from the doc was that it was less severe than expected and thus a quicker timeline for recovery is expected now.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:54 am to
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Wims (top receiver) is not Kirby's.


Derp...

ETA... too many comments to reply to... why you have to be so dumb Straws?
This post was edited on 12/5/17 at 11:55 am
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:57 am to
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Kerryon Johnson


You understand that the less a team is on the field, the better their defense is, right?

Johnson had 13 touches in the SECCG, he had 32 when he was fresh.

Their team had 25 first downs with Kerryon, without they had 18.

TOP? 33:06 Game 1, 26:58 game two.

That you're trying to pretend that the offense making consistent first downs and staying on the field doesn't help the defense is breathtaking.

You saw what happened to Georgia when they lost their rushing threat -- only 13 first downs the entire game. Take away your best players, your defense gives up 488 yards.

You can say that Kirby ''adjusted'', you can say that you guys were ready for this game...

Or you can admit that the only reason Georgia won in that fashion is because their best player and the offensive player of the year for the SEC was out, who killed you the first game.

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Wims (top receiver) is not Kirby's.

Derp...

ETA... too many comments to reply to... why you have to be so dumb Straws?


Wims wasn't developed by Kirby? He's a transfer senior. Malik Zaire being good or bad is not on McElwain in the same way that Wims being good or bad is not on Kirby's. Good job getting a guy to transfer??? That doesn't mean he developed him. What player has Kirby developed?
This post was edited on 12/5/17 at 12:01 pm
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:59 am to
See above to keep this into one post and avoid your Gallopin' Gish.
This post was edited on 12/5/17 at 12:01 pm
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 12:45 pm to
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Wims wasn't developed by Kirby? He's a transfer senior. Malik Zaire being good or bad is not on McElwain in the same way that Wims being good or bad is not on Kirby's. Good job getting a guy to transfer??? That doesn't mean he developed him. What player has Kirby developed?


:derppartdeux:

Juco Signee in the 2016 class. Played last season... was not great. Played this season... has been significantly better in all aspects.

JR Reed... was not a huge contributor at Tulsa. Signed in 2016, had to sit out. Is the second leading tackler on this defense and has been a much needed addition.

Mecole Hardman - Sophomore - recruited as a DB. Kirby and staff decided to move to offense... was not good to start the season at WR... has become a weapon.

Ben Cleveland - RSFr - was not good enough to start on our atrocious OL last year. Was pushing for time to start this season but couldn't crack the line up. After Auburn game, secures RG starting spot...

He's only been here 2 years... he's got upperclassmen playing better than they did under the previous staff and he's plugged holes where needed. As I've said many times. Year 1 and 2 won't tell us everything we need to know about Kirby, but right now, his trend is at least good... will see how things shape up going forward, but I've got a lot more faith in Kirby than I would were I in your shoes with Mullen. QB in this recruiting class is a pretty significant concern. If Corral is gone, I'm just not sure who you replace him with that is objectively good enough to start early in their career. That's a problem.

ETA: @ Gallping Gish... hadn't heard that term in ages. Definitely was not intentional. Was just replying to posts as I read them... I type a lot...
This post was edited on 12/5/17 at 12:47 pm
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 12:58 pm to
frick, marry, kill

Sam Ponder
Laura Rutledge
Erin Andrews
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 1:01 pm to
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frick, marry, kill

Sam Ponder
Laura Rutledge
Erin Andrews


I reject the premise of your game... frick... frick... frick...
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