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The end of the 22 fb season
Posted on 11/27/21 at 7:34 am
Posted on 11/27/21 at 7:34 am
Just my opinion
MIZZOU had some serious momentum going into the game yesterday.
1. We'd won three of there last 4 games.
2. Recruiting was still off scale high with commitments from the nations top Class of 22, 5* WR Luther Burden, and starting off the 23 class with another highly touted TE 4* Brett Norfleet.
3. The defense had gone from being atrocious, to showing real signs of improved. Especially the DLine and even LB play
4. Home attendance even ended on a possible note with nearly 48k fans showed up for the last home game against Florida.
With this said, after yesterday's game I find myself confused and a bit concerned.
1. Conner Blazelak regressed as the season went on. Yesterday was just embarrassing for fans, the team, and I hope for Coach Drinkwitz. The excuse of injuries no longer work. Imo this falls on our HC as much as it does on CB if not more...
2. For the first time, Drink looked and sounded like HC just throwing out answers in his post game presser, rather han a HC owning a bad loss... which he should have owned.
My immediate concern is, with the bad last game of the season loss.. Does this hurt Drinks great recruiting? Does it push a few top players into the transfer portal?
One thing for sure is. The Drinkwitz honeymoon is over. I hope he at the very least finds some humility and puts his ego aside, and corrects not only the team issues, but his own coaching short falls. He's a young energetic HC, that still has some growing to do.
Do I still believe Drink can and probably will take us to the next level? Yes I do. Are there areas he needs to improve in? Yes.
Looking forward to all opinions
MIZZOU had some serious momentum going into the game yesterday.
1. We'd won three of there last 4 games.
2. Recruiting was still off scale high with commitments from the nations top Class of 22, 5* WR Luther Burden, and starting off the 23 class with another highly touted TE 4* Brett Norfleet.
3. The defense had gone from being atrocious, to showing real signs of improved. Especially the DLine and even LB play
4. Home attendance even ended on a possible note with nearly 48k fans showed up for the last home game against Florida.
With this said, after yesterday's game I find myself confused and a bit concerned.
1. Conner Blazelak regressed as the season went on. Yesterday was just embarrassing for fans, the team, and I hope for Coach Drinkwitz. The excuse of injuries no longer work. Imo this falls on our HC as much as it does on CB if not more...
2. For the first time, Drink looked and sounded like HC just throwing out answers in his post game presser, rather han a HC owning a bad loss... which he should have owned.
My immediate concern is, with the bad last game of the season loss.. Does this hurt Drinks great recruiting? Does it push a few top players into the transfer portal?
One thing for sure is. The Drinkwitz honeymoon is over. I hope he at the very least finds some humility and puts his ego aside, and corrects not only the team issues, but his own coaching short falls. He's a young energetic HC, that still has some growing to do.
Do I still believe Drink can and probably will take us to the next level? Yes I do. Are there areas he needs to improve in? Yes.
Looking forward to all opinions
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Posted on 11/27/21 at 8:01 am to SemperFi
I don't think yesterday's loss will hurt this year's recruiting.
I do think at least one QB hits the portal due to Drink's mismanagement of the position.
As for the rest of the roster, who could possibly leave that has any real value? He ended up playing the best players at every other position. The playing time was earned versus being annointed with Bazelak. If anything Drink needs to hit the portal hard again for immediate help at LB, DL and OL.
A favorite question of Frank Cusumano on his radio show is, "Would you rather have a head coach who's a 10 as a recruiter and a 5 as an Xs and Os? Or a 5 as a recruiter and a 10 with the Xs and Os?".
I think we may be about to find out with Drinkwitz unless his game and player management improve greatly.
Posted on 11/27/21 at 8:41 am to SemperFi
Yesterday was a loss to a really good team that lost to Bama by 7. The sky is fairly high. The QB problem is we don’t know anything about what happens in team meetings and as disappointing as CB’s play has been and Drink’s reluctance to make a change, let’s face it CB is one quarter of good play away from everyone singing his praises. YES I would have loved seeing what Cook could do yesterday if he was put in in the 2nd quarter. Even Macon could have made some plays with his feet but not his arm (kinda what we got from CB). Every HC goes with a known quantity (see Pinkel staying with Maty over Lock or Tank over Maty).
What does next year hold? If Cook stays then I think he gets a better look vs. this year. Macon has a lot of work to do with his passing game before he’ll pass anyone on the depth chart. Barring something extraordinary Horn will redshirt which is fine. We need a go to guy at RB (I like Cox). We also need a better O line.
I believe we’ll take the next step next year.
What does next year hold? If Cook stays then I think he gets a better look vs. this year. Macon has a lot of work to do with his passing game before he’ll pass anyone on the depth chart. Barring something extraordinary Horn will redshirt which is fine. We need a go to guy at RB (I like Cox). We also need a better O line.
I believe we’ll take the next step next year.
Posted on 11/27/21 at 9:27 am to SemperFi
If you recall last year we ended with a similar dud, but it kind of felt different because we were missing so many Covid guys.
This year we had some momentum and we had a chance to beat a solid team to end the year, and I hate to throw it all on the QB, but you can pretty much throw it all on the QB. Had we even semi competent play from that position we would of had a good chance to win. Go back to the overthrow of Boo, the 4th down throw that was wildly off target. Hit both of those we end up with 10-14 more points in the first half and its an entirely different game.the penalties were killers too. And the biggest problem with all of that is that it’s 100% on the coach because he keeps running him out there. He burned up a lot of good will with his insistence to play a guy who is clearly injured and whose confidence is clearly destroyed. That’s not doing Bazelak any favors and it sure isn’t helping the team. It’s just dumb.
I don’t really see it effecting recruiting now, but next year we definitely need to start showing some improvement on the field or it’s going to be difficult to keep selling a future vision if it isn’t manifesting on the field in some way.
Long story short, I’m not worried per se but put up or shut up time is coming soon
This year we had some momentum and we had a chance to beat a solid team to end the year, and I hate to throw it all on the QB, but you can pretty much throw it all on the QB. Had we even semi competent play from that position we would of had a good chance to win. Go back to the overthrow of Boo, the 4th down throw that was wildly off target. Hit both of those we end up with 10-14 more points in the first half and its an entirely different game.the penalties were killers too. And the biggest problem with all of that is that it’s 100% on the coach because he keeps running him out there. He burned up a lot of good will with his insistence to play a guy who is clearly injured and whose confidence is clearly destroyed. That’s not doing Bazelak any favors and it sure isn’t helping the team. It’s just dumb.
I don’t really see it effecting recruiting now, but next year we definitely need to start showing some improvement on the field or it’s going to be difficult to keep selling a future vision if it isn’t manifesting on the field in some way.
Long story short, I’m not worried per se but put up or shut up time is coming soon
Posted on 11/27/21 at 11:28 am to JesusQuintana
Drink isn't the first Mizzou coach to stick with his QB too long. We saw the same with Odom and Kelly. That's what makes Lincoln Rileys decision to sit Rattler for a true freshman such a ballsy call, and as it turned out, the right call.
Drink needed a little time to "grow up." He doesn't have alot of years of HC experience. He will figure out that he's in the SEC, do what's needed to WIN games.
1. Recruiting, seems to be a natural.
2. You need quality depth at the QB position. The SEC has a short learning curve. This seems to be why CB keeps the starting job. Horn is on the way, gotta recruit another in 23.
3. It all starts at the DL. Wingo is a stud, and Gracial is coming. Must develop 4 DE, but they have a good collection of talent.
4. Need 2 good RBs with size. Recruited 1, transfer portal has another from Nebraska. Wear the defense out with SEC size backs Ala UGA.
5. Hire an OC. Collaborate with another offensive mind. Even if he keeps calling the plays like Andy Reid, it's never a bad thing to have someone help use those weapons we have.
Drink is our guy, but let's be honest, he has been a HC for 2.5 seasons. There is gonna be growing pains. But it's easier to go through with Talent than without.
Drink needed a little time to "grow up." He doesn't have alot of years of HC experience. He will figure out that he's in the SEC, do what's needed to WIN games.
1. Recruiting, seems to be a natural.
2. You need quality depth at the QB position. The SEC has a short learning curve. This seems to be why CB keeps the starting job. Horn is on the way, gotta recruit another in 23.
3. It all starts at the DL. Wingo is a stud, and Gracial is coming. Must develop 4 DE, but they have a good collection of talent.
4. Need 2 good RBs with size. Recruited 1, transfer portal has another from Nebraska. Wear the defense out with SEC size backs Ala UGA.
5. Hire an OC. Collaborate with another offensive mind. Even if he keeps calling the plays like Andy Reid, it's never a bad thing to have someone help use those weapons we have.
Drink is our guy, but let's be honest, he has been a HC for 2.5 seasons. There is gonna be growing pains. But it's easier to go through with Talent than without.
Posted on 11/27/21 at 11:31 am to surgicalvenom
I know I’m in the minority but I don’t have an issue Drink being the OC
Posted on 11/27/21 at 11:38 am to Wtodd
I have no problem with his foot all acumen, but since he is always "crootin" which is absolutely necessary, I can't see a downside to help. Especially someone with alot of experience to balance his lack of experience. In reality Drink flew up the ladder pretty fast.
Posted on 11/27/21 at 11:56 am to JesusQuintana
Our inner dialogue,"This upcoming bowl game is going to answer most of our questions."
Our thoughts after the game win or lose, "I'm more confused"
Our thoughts after the game win or lose, "I'm more confused"
Posted on 11/27/21 at 12:50 pm to Wtodd
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I know I’m in the minority but I don’t have an issue Drink being the OC
Yeah, complaining about play calling is a pretty typical fan thing. Good call if it works, bad call if it doesn’t type of thing. I mean, this was a top 30 offense before Bazelak turned into a complete turd. I don’t think Drink just forgot how to call plays all of a sudden.
What type of plays would anyone run with a QB who can’t throw or run? That’s a pretty limited playbook right there.
Get a good QB in here and we’ll see what the offense actually looks like. What we run is actually very similar to what Arkansas runs. In fact, look at the play that we missed to Boo and the play they made to Burks (where he slipped before the end zone). It’s the exact same play.
Posted on 11/27/21 at 1:20 pm to JesusQuintana
This is a quality thread. I echo most of the statements here. Next year we need to see more results on the field.
Thankful for the extra bowl practices!
Thankful for the extra bowl practices!
Posted on 11/27/21 at 1:45 pm to SemperFi
Last year’s season kind of ended with a wet fart too with a couple of uncompetitive losses. Not saying it means anything but simply as an observation.
Posted on 11/27/21 at 6:02 pm to Mizz-SEC
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A favorite question of Frank Cusumano on his radio show is, "Would you rather have a head coach who's a 10 as a recruiter and a 5 as an Xs and Os? Or a 5 as a recruiter and a 10 with the Xs and Os?".
I think we may be about to find out with Drinkwitz unless his game and player management improve greatly.
Xs and Os can only work if you have 4*, 5*, and some good 3* playrs. Think about other teams that have better players than Mizzou. That is why some of the play calling wouldn't work very well. When he gets those 4* and 5* players then it will be easier to make plays. No long balls thrown? again OL and quarterback not have strong arm. Learning curve is another issue. HC is still learning. It is a team sport so team work is needed. Look at Gary Pinkel years. He was slowly building the system but it was mostly due to lack of talents. Kentucky? Same thing. Give him more time.
Posted on 11/27/21 at 6:34 pm to JesusQuintana
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I don’t really see it effecting recruiting now, but next year we definitely need to start showing some improvement on the field or it’s going to be difficult to keep selling a future vision if it isn’t manifesting on the field in some way.
Long story short, I’m not worried per se but put up or shut up time is coming soon
DC was the key problem earlier on. Not now. That should help rest the defense players. Next year should start off much better. This is year two and no COVID-19. So it really is year 1. Then a full off season with DC. that will help a lot. When there are lack of talents and key injuries that prevent the use of certain schemes. Next year should be much better overall. If you do not see that then you are not good at making an evaluation of this team to the one from the one Odom had when he was the HC. Then look at recruiting. I am going to see a huge pick up on talents that will make a bigger difference on the field and scheming wise. Talents will be the key difference from what make a better team overall.
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