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re: Forbes America's Best Colleges

Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:21 am to
Posted by phil4bama
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Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:21 am to
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with Alabama’s strategy and in some ways it makes sense but they need to tweak the plan. Recruiting California and New England and Chicago is rather silly IMO. You will never hold onto those kids once they earn their degree. I would change a couple of things about their plan.

1) you are the University of ALABAMA! Take care of your in-state kids first. That is your primary mission. Don’t fail it. UF, UGA, and probably several other state flagship schools, including Alabama are doing just that. They can’t even attempt to accommodate the number of applicants they are receiving even from in-staters so they don’t even try but they are still heavily recruiting out of staters. That shouldn’t happen. UNC probably has the best solution I have seen: their state legislature mandated that something like 80% of their freshman classes come from in state. Out-of-staters fight for a slot in that other 20% and it’s damn near impossible to get one. It allows UNC to really cherry pick that OOS kid.

2) Draw a circle around Tuscaloosa with a 500 mile radius. That is your out of state territory. Concentrate your efforts there. Those kids have a higher probability of staying and contributing to Alabama the state because they are regional kids and won’t be so far from home or from a totally different area of the country.
3) Create more cooperatives with neighboring states so that a kid from Pensacola or Starkville or Columbus, Ga. pays in state rates and vice-versa. It helps everyone out.
This post was edited on 9/9/21 at 8:22 am
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:59 am to
Looks like Bama has already transitioned to this type of approach.... at least the in-state focus.

IN-STATE NEW FRESHMEN ENROLLMENT BY YEAR:
2011: 2,848
2012: 2,857
2013: 2,585
2014: 2,474
2015: 2,508
2016: 2,412
2017: 2,406
2018: 2,271
2019: 2,533
2020: 2,701

In 2011, Alabama took 572 more in-state kids than Auburn did.... but by 2014, Auburn was taking in more kids from in-state. Auburn enrolled more students from inside the state for six consecutive years until 2020, when Alabama finally pulled back ahead by just 67 kids.

I wish I could see how many kids from Georgia were going to Alabama. For decades, Auburn got far more kids from the state of Georgia, but that has changed in the last decade. Auburn probably gets slightly more still, but Alabama has really made a push and its probably fairly close now.

Here's how many kids from Georgia Auburn pulls in each year (new freshmen):

2011: 596
2012: 523
2013: 500
2014: 635
2015: 669
2016: 626
2017: 739
2018: 705
2019: 784
2020: 760

Alabama doesn't release individual state numbers from outside of Alabama, but I bet they are up to 600+ or so kids a year from Georgia.
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