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re: The Long Slide - Tennessee Volunteers Football

Posted on 8/17/21 at 2:31 pm to
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 8/17/21 at 2:31 pm to
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They routinely seek the less expensive, less experienced coaches. Guys that can recruit because they can relate to kids but can’t coach at a high level.


More flawed smokeyone takes.

Kirby doesn’t hire based on failed sec experience, and that’s a good thing. He does value recruiting, as any competent head coach should, but don’t mistake that for hiring guys who can’t coach. Such a lazy and biased take from you.

Others see how your idea of a quality coach staff continues to fail in Knoxville over and over and over, so it’s humorous that reality continues to evade you. Willie and garner were not good hires in 2021, just like they weren’t in 2014. Their times have passed. Those were lazy butch Jones/Pruitt type hires.

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Facility additions and upgrades are constantly in catch up mode and based on established concepts when the better schools are cutting edge.


You are so behind the times. We have caught up after massive upgrades since Kirby arrived. $175 million well spent. When completed next year, We will have every essential thing needed or wanted to excel. There simply isn’t enough room to go beyond our football facilities to claim they aren’t elite.

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I saw the decline from being content to being bad.


Fulmer was cut from the richt cloth. Neither could keep up effort wise in modern football. Unlike them, Kirby isn’t content. He isn’t lazy. That’s not a good thing for the vols, but go on denying reality.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
16319 posts
Posted on 8/21/21 at 7:19 am to
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Kirby doesn’t hire based on

Kirby likes guys that can recruit and not challenge him. UGAs AD likes a bargain. That’s how you end up with a staff of recruiters, with ties to Kirby or no experience. Guys that don’t fit that criteria move on at the first chance.


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You are so behind the times. We have caught up after massive upgrades since Kirby arrived


247 ranked football facilities a couple months ago. UGA was 7th in the SEC, 9th if you include OU and TX and the 2 right behind UGA started building to pass them last year.

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Fulmer was cut from the richt cloth. Neither could keep up effort wise in modern football. Unlike them, Kirby isn’t content. He isn’t lazy.


Kirby runs the same D and still controls (read stagnates) the O. He micro manages the assembled players to the point he can’t build a team. Fulmer was a head coach that assembled a staff that could coach, and recruited based on the program. He won because of the program he was able to establish. Kirby will not win a title without backing into it (read accident/ extreme luck) because he can’t build a program. He recruits individuals that play as individuals, that make decisions based on the individual and rarely the team. A program that recruits at the level UGA does doesn’t go into a season with no QB depth, still figuring out an Oline starting 5, no WR depth, and no secondary depth every year. It’s mind blowing. Change a couple of the positions but it’s the same story year in and year out. And more often than not you see that with the staff. How many Coordinators has Kirby run through so far?
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