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re: Alabama claims 3 titles that aren't even recognized by NCAA & in the '80's, claimed 5 more

Posted on 7/9/21 at 4:56 pm to
Posted by JetDawg
Los Angeles/USC Trojans fan/alum
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 7/9/21 at 4:56 pm to
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Since the NCAA doesn't "recognize"


Typical Bama dumbness. "Recognized" titles are those titles the NCAA lists in their "NCAA OFFICIAL RECORDS BOOK". It's a very thick record book, you know, the kind made of paper!?? It's a printed copy of all their football record-keeping. All their "recognized" national champions are listed online, too, if you're smart enough to look it up properly.

But, since the Gumps aren't smart enough, here.... LINK

If you Bama fans knew anything, you'd know what is meant by "NCAA recognized." Stupid Gumps.
This post was edited on 7/9/21 at 4:59 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 5:00 pm to
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Typical Bama dumbness. "Recognized" titles are those titles the NCAA lists in their "NCAA OFFICIAL RECORDS BOOK". It's a very thick record book, you know, the kind made of paper!?? It's a printed copy of all their football record-keeping. All their "recognized" national champions are listed online, too, if you're smart enough to look it up properly.

But, since the Gumps aren't smart enough, here.... LINK

If you Bama fans knew anything, you'd know what is meant by "NCAA recognized." Stupid Gumps.


So we aren't claiming 5 (NCAA says 23, we claim 18), while Georgia doesn't claim 4 (NCAA says 6, you claim 2).

So....what's your point? You should claim those 4 and we should claim 5 more?

Ok I guess.
This post was edited on 7/9/21 at 5:02 pm
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
25066 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 5:12 pm to
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Recognized" titles are those titles the NCAA lists in their "NCAA OFFICIAL RECORDS BOOK". It's a very thick record book, you know, the kind made of paper!??


I know it well, why didn't you link it?

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All their "recognized" national champions are listed online, too, if you're smart enough to look it up properly.

But, since the Gumps aren't smart enough, here.... LINK


Wait, why are you talking about the "very thick record book" published by the NCAA and then turn around and linking Wikipedia?

Why wouldn't you just link the "very thick record book"? They have this thing called a pdf and they can use it to put things like "very thick record books" in digital format so they can be put on the internet. You want to see it? (Careful it is very thick):

Very Thick NCAA Football Bowl Subdivision Recordbook

As was pointed out to you earlier, it lists Georgia with 6 like you said, but it lists Alabama with 23. So Georgia doesn't claim 4 that the NCAA "recognizes" and Alabama doesn't claim 5 that the NCAA "recognizes." Now what do you want to talk about?

This thread is hilarious.

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Typical Bama dumbness.


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You Gumps really DO lack reading comprehension skills. I'll leave you in your ignorance. It's more fun this way.


Indeed.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
23000 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 5:16 pm to
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Typical Bama dumbness. "Recognized" titles are those titles the NCAA lists in their "NCAA OFFICIAL RECORDS BOOK". It's a very thick record book, you know, the kind made of paper!?? It's a printed copy of all their football record-keeping. All their "recognized" national champions are listed online, too, if you're smart enough to look it up properly.

But, since the Gumps aren't smart enough, here.... LINK

If you Bama fans knew anything, you'd know what is meant by "NCAA recognized." Stupid Gumps.


There is no official record book of FBS national championships by the NCAA. If there is, I'd like to see it.

What you do see from time to time are lists that appear on the NCAA website. But that stuff is just done by different NCAA authors/editors and is certainly not anything close to being an "official" list. They'll list just about anything anyone claims half the time. Suddenly even BCS computers are listed for teams as selectors.

You linked to a wiki page after claiming the NCAA. Not sure why.

I've heard the term "NCAA recognized" for the past 15 years online. It's always done by people who don't have a clue what role the NCAA has in FBS college football, which is absolutely none. They keep game stats and records is about it.

If you want to talk about what the NCAA recognizes in college football, you better start looking towards FCS and lower divisions.

In reality, Alabama has 1 claim it shouldn't have and that is 1941. All the other claims fit directly to their era and the way national champions were determined in that area.

Now, let this dumbass gump tell you what is legit.

Pre 1936 you have the math poll/Rose Bowl era. You'll see claims of 4 and 5 teams or more every year in this era. Basically all of them done retroactive before 1930ish. Someone put out a math poll in 1930ish, and then Knute Rockne ask them to go back in time so he could claim retro ones.

In 1936 the Poll Era begins with the AP. It's a bit biased for many years, but after 1935 it is no longer valid to claim a math poll. This is why Alabama's 1941 claim isn't legit, despite the math poll selector. The coaches poll comes about 15 years later, and those are legit as well.

From 1936 until the start of the BCS, you can claim any of those 2 polls and it's legit.

Then you have BCS era, and now we have the playoff era. AKA USC using the AP poll to claim 2004 is a bullshite claim.

Using this method, Alabama loses 1 title. What about Georgia?

But sure, let's pretend the NCAA has a method of "recognizing" national titles.

This post was edited on 7/9/21 at 5:17 pm
Posted by C W
Member since Mar 2020
2686 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 5:20 pm to
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But, since the Gumps aren't smart enough, here.... LINK


Well hell ,that even counts 1941 for Alabama
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