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re: An incredible stat regarding Alabama Football's last 15 recruiting classes...
Posted on 4/24/21 at 12:57 pm to SidewalkTiger
Posted on 4/24/21 at 12:57 pm to SidewalkTiger
Between Bear and Nick, for over 25 years, Alabama had one magical season. And I must admit it was fun watching them pound down Miami. And Stallings really was a hell of a coach. But besides that they were essentially a nondescript program living off past glory.
In 2000, when Saban arrived LSU was by the estimation of The Football Warehouse, the 14th best program in CFB history. That means lots of 8-3's and 9-2's sprinkled in with a national championship and a great run from 1958-1973 and some SEC titles and bowl games and a wasteland period for the first half of the 90's.
LSU, of course has most-recently won 3 national championships in a 17 year period and played for another. All while being the only team to play Alabama, Florida and Auburn (10 national championships between them in that span) EVERY year. And of course LSU also won championships with 3 consecutive coaches which has never been done in the SEC. I'd say LSU is now up to somewhere around 7-9 as all time great programs now because of that 2 decade run.
When Saban leaves the odds are they return to good but not great status until that find that next generational coach. Those guys don't grow on trees. CFB fans can bluster about history all they want, but coaching is everything, and you have to find that guy and he has to stay and build his own program. Just ask Miami, Florida State, Florida, Texas, USC, Michigan, Penn State etc. The cfb landscape is littered with used-to-be-programs living off the past.
In 2000, when Saban arrived LSU was by the estimation of The Football Warehouse, the 14th best program in CFB history. That means lots of 8-3's and 9-2's sprinkled in with a national championship and a great run from 1958-1973 and some SEC titles and bowl games and a wasteland period for the first half of the 90's.
LSU, of course has most-recently won 3 national championships in a 17 year period and played for another. All while being the only team to play Alabama, Florida and Auburn (10 national championships between them in that span) EVERY year. And of course LSU also won championships with 3 consecutive coaches which has never been done in the SEC. I'd say LSU is now up to somewhere around 7-9 as all time great programs now because of that 2 decade run.
When Saban leaves the odds are they return to good but not great status until that find that next generational coach. Those guys don't grow on trees. CFB fans can bluster about history all they want, but coaching is everything, and you have to find that guy and he has to stay and build his own program. Just ask Miami, Florida State, Florida, Texas, USC, Michigan, Penn State etc. The cfb landscape is littered with used-to-be-programs living off the past.
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Posted on 4/24/21 at 1:52 pm to Lsupimp
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Between Bear and Nick, for over 25 years, Alabama had one magical season
Also won/shared an SEC title 3 times, played for multiple other conf titles, were a post-season game away from winning/playing for 2 other national titles, and 9 x 10-win seasons out of 25. Yes,there were also 5 x losing seasons, but coaching turnover and a ~10 yr setback from sanctions was certainly a factor. Given the context, it still wasn't that bad.
Bama in the 80s-90s was on par to ahead of that "great" LSU run from '58-'73. Of course, LSU between '73 and Saban were more than forgettable and the 90s were just bad.
In a comparable time frame to the 25 yr Bama period you highlighted, LSU cranked out 10 losing seasons, only 2 x 10 win seasons, and a .500 year to boot.
Not sure why you jumped to comparing LSu and Bama stats in a Bama accomplishment thread other than insecurities. But, it is firmly established that LSU was relatively poor performing to mediocre outside of some highlight years prior to Saban. While Bama has had prominent, sustained success for nearly a century since winning the '26 Rose Bowl.
Since Saban, LSU has had sustained success built on the culture of investment into the program he brought and change toward a commitment to winning. He showed LSU how to drill for the oil it was sitting on. He is directly responsible for the success of the 2000s. I'd go as far to say, he is also responsible for the other 2 championships as much as he is for denying the 2011 one. Les' was benefit from the program. The 2011 and 2019 years were a direct result of chasing Saban. Iron sharpens Iron. Without Saban at Bama, 2019 LSU GOAT season doesn't happen.
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