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re: Sully statue to remain

Posted on 1/28/21 at 10:19 am to
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 10:19 am to
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i also believe that we should be having open conversations about the things they did in their lives and how we should view them. we shouldnt get rid of sullys statue, but we should be telling sullys full story. the good and the bad. and he had both as everyone does. he did great things for our university. he also did some truly deplorable and heinous things that shouldnt be glossed over


First, most of the accusations toward Sul Ross are just not true. He didn’t slaughter a bunch of black people in the civil war for instance, he and his troops defeated an opposing army regimen that happened to include many black soldiers. It’s war, people die.

Second, it is folly to judge men and women of the past by our modern moral standards. This forces us to call nearly every human who ever lived an immoral monster. Moreover, using the same logic, imagine what people a hundred years from now will think of you?

There are people whose evil is universal and crosses all times and locales. But the majority of people are simply products of when and where they lived.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 10:28 am to
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First, most of the accusations toward Sul Ross are just not true. He didn’t slaughter a bunch of black people in the civil war for instance, he and his troops defeated an opposing army regimen that happened to include many black soldiers. It’s war, people die.

fair enough
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Second, it is folly to judge men and women of the past by our modern moral standards. This forces us to call nearly every human who ever lived an immoral monster. Moreover, using the same logic, imagine what people a hundred years from now will think of you?

absolutely. i am in no shape or form supportive of the people who want to take his statue down and remove him from the university's history. i am all for simply recontextualizing.

maybe put up a plaque that says "here is sullivan ross. he did great things for our university that deserve praise. he also did these things that we now have a different view on. take what you want from this information" in a better way? idk
This post was edited on 1/28/21 at 10:28 am
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