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re: The new “opt out” bowls

Posted on 12/28/20 at 12:08 pm to
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/28/20 at 12:08 pm to
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This hasn’t happened vs the vandys of the world, so I doubt it.


As far as I know nobody has opted out of a regular season game at all, so I'm not sure what your point is?
We are talking about the lower teams such as playoff teams #5-8, right? Look....if #4 can't compete with #1 why in the world do you believe #8 can?

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It’s beside the point we have been discussing, which is opt outs, so it makes sense to do that.


That is exactly the point. Once the #5, #6, #7 and #8 teams get beat regularly by 40 points + it won't take long for the players to start opting out and "preparing for their pro day!"

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I am not sure this is the trade off. Neither of our sugar bowls were good games. Would they have been better with championship implications? Perhaps.

There have been many more competitive Sugar Bowl games than there have been #1 verses #4 playoff games. Now imagine the blood baths #1 verses #8 will be. It most definitely will be a tradeoff.

Peter alluded to it a bit earlier, so i will say it out loud.

The intensity of the games in the playoffs goes up tremendously by the best teams The also ran teams can't seem to turn it up a notch. This is pretty much true in most sports. #8 verses #1?

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I guess.

Then why don't we discuss how to do it another way and preserve what we have? Once a system is scrapped it is almost impossible to restore it. I have to go do something, but when I get back I will make a post of one way they could POSSIBLY do your 8 team playoff and make it work.
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5076 posts
Posted on 12/28/20 at 12:58 pm to
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#1 verses #8
That's not the only game played.
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Once the #5, #6, #7 and #8 teams get beat regularly by 40 points
I listed the possible games for the last few years and at least half were good matchups every season. 4v5 3v6 & 2v7 will usually be better matchups than 1v4, and you forget how in every sport a real playoff tends to create close games. Games are a big closer, teams feel the pressure, and bit time players (and those previously unknown clutch perfumers) step up. That's what sports is all about.

You also forget that players don't play for probable wins. Just the possibility for an upset the playoffs is enough to get players and coaches to lay it all on the line.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
59015 posts
Posted on 12/28/20 at 1:18 pm to
The only way I can see the expanded playoffs to be the least bit interesting is if they did the following:

1-4 teams are safe and will be in the playoffs

Have a play in round with #5 vs. #8 and #6 vs. #7
Losers are out. Then the winners play #4 and #3
The winners of that round matchup against #1 and #2 with the winners meeting in the finals. It keeps similarly ranked teams playing each other, and hopefully closer games.

I would still rather keep the playoffs at 4 teams, though and explore ways to keep the players engaged and not opting out.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27316 posts
Posted on 12/28/20 at 1:48 pm to
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As far as I know nobody has opted out of a regular season game at all, so I'm not sure what your point is?



Sure they have (Nick Bosa opted out after half the season) and the logical conclusion to opting out for "meaningless"bowl games is to opt out for "meaningless" reg season games like the Vandy game this year.Its only a matter of time.

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That is exactly the point. Once the #5, #6, #7 and #8 teams get beat regularly by 40 points +


Here we go again.JUst astounds me that you don't realize CFB and sports isn't a snapshot of the past 6 years and many teams who didn't make the top 4 were certainly more capable than those selected
but for whatever reasons (injuries,early season upsets) didn't make it.

BTW,there were LOTS of mismatches in the BCS championship games. I listed those earlier

Okay,for the FOURTH time, do you think Georgia is now capable of playing with Bama or Clemson now and would it be game worth seeing in a hypothetical playoff scenerio.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33172 posts
Posted on 12/28/20 at 7:54 pm to
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As far as I know nobody has opted out of a regular season game at all, so I'm not sure what your point is?
We are talking about the lower teams such as playoff teams #5-8, right? Look....if #4 can't compete with #1 why in the world do you believe #8 can?



Players arent going to opt out if their teams are in the playoffs.

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Once the #5, #6, #7 and #8 teams get beat regularly by 40 points + it won't take long for the players to start opting out and "preparing for their pro day!"



#5 could beat #4 & #6 could beat #3. #7 could beat #2. Those players arent going to opt out if they have a playoff game.

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There have been many more competitive Sugar Bowl games than there have been #1 verses #4 playoff games.


A quick review of the Sugar Bowls shows that most of them arent competitive. They often involve motivated, fully loaded G5 teams against a disappointed P5 team that might have some opt outs.

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Then why don't we discuss how to do it another way and preserve what we have?


What other way? Players want to win championships. Giving more of them chances to win championships in the postseason will reduce opt outs.
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