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re: Brian Harsin: By the numbers
Posted on 12/22/20 at 10:39 pm to Darth_Vader
Posted on 12/22/20 at 10:39 pm to Darth_Vader
Harsin is a better hire than I think most were anticipating Auburn making at this juncture, but I’m not sure his overall coaching record is a very good litmus test. BSU has more resources than any other Mountain West school, and likely more than several of them combined. It’s in a beautiful city, has a unique stadium, and better facilities than a lot of P5 schools. It would be a significant red flag if his record at BSU were any worse than that.
ETA: For reference, from 2000-2013, BSU had 4 seasons with 3 or more losses. From 2014-2019, BSU matched that number.
ETA: For reference, from 2000-2013, BSU had 4 seasons with 3 or more losses. From 2014-2019, BSU matched that number.
This post was edited on 12/22/20 at 10:43 pm
Posted on 12/22/20 at 11:40 pm to Tuscaloosa
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Harsin is a better hire than I think most were anticipating Auburn making at this juncture, but I’m not sure his overall coaching record is a very good litmus test. BSU has more resources than any other Mountain West school, and likely more than several of them combined. It’s in a beautiful city, has a unique stadium, and better facilities than a lot of P5 schools. It would be a significant red flag if his record at BSU were any worse than that.
ETA: For reference, from 2000-2013, BSU had 4 seasons with 3 or more losses. From 2014-2019, BSU matched that number.
Spot on. The days when he was in serious conversations about our next HC made me sick. Good luck Auburn, at least you have a Chad Morris.
Posted on 12/23/20 at 12:33 am to Tuscaloosa
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For reference, from 2000-2013, BSU had 4 seasons with 3 or more losses. From 2014-2019, BSU matched that number.
Boise changed conferences in 2010, which significantly raised the strength of schedule. 2010 was about half way through Petersen's tenure.
Here's a post from an AU forum where a guy ran the SoS numbers:
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Harsin took over in the last year of BSU's probation for LOIC (which was BS on a scale comparable to any of AU's probations) and down 9 scholarship players after a loss of 3/year from '11-'13. He faced a much tougher SOS of -1.77 (-1.48 if you leave out this year, which was their weakest year by far). For comparison's sake AU's SOS in the Malzahn era was 6.06.
Dan Hawkins faced an incredibly weak SOS of -5.18, so I really don't see his record as all that comparable to Harsin, so please stop with all the "He's thuh werst coach they've had out there" whining.
Dan Hawkins faced a -5.18 SoS. Harsin was at -1.7 on average. That's a massive jump. For reference, AU's SoS is +6.06
Posted on 12/23/20 at 9:50 am to Tuscaloosa
Since 1999 They have had 4 different head coaches and they have all had the same type of success. Usually win around 11 games while loosing 2. It’s the level of competition that inflates their record.
Posted on 12/23/20 at 12:54 pm to Tuscaloosa
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ETA: For reference, from 2000-2013, BSU had 4 seasons with 3 or more losses. From 2014-2019, BSU matched that number.
I feel like it's hard to judge how good their coaches really are when they pour so many resources into the program compared to their competition.
The school was founded in 1932. They've only had 11 losing seasons since they started football in 1933 and 6 of those from from 1933 to 1946. Their last losing season was in 1997. They've always taken their football seriously.
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This post was edited on 12/23/20 at 12:58 pm
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