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Posted on 11/7/20 at 8:35 pm to
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 11/7/20 at 8:35 pm to
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Different contexts and apples-to-oranges. Fromm gave CKS no reason to bench him for Fields except for arguably against LSU (and afterwards Fromm played his best football of his career), yet Fields got quite a bit of playing time as #2, which is something that most backups don't get outside of injuries or mop-up duty.



Kelly Bryant didn't play poorly enough to get benched either. Clemson was undefeated when Dabo pulled the trigger. He just saw that he had a clearly more talented QB on the bench.

The difference is that Kirby wanted to do whatever it took to keep them both on the roster while Dabo didn't really care if Bryant left because he knew he needed to keep Lawrence no matter what. Kirby was scared to find himself in the situation that Clemson was in when Bryant transferred and Lawrence got hurt and they had to play Chase Brice against Syracuse.

TL;DR - Kirby didn't have the same foresight Dabo did, and it's the difference between being decent and winning a national title.
This post was edited on 11/7/20 at 8:38 pm
Posted by dawgRUSH
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Posted on 11/7/20 at 9:04 pm to
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Kelly Bryant didn't play poorly enough to get benched either. Clemson was undefeated when Dabo pulled the trigger. He just saw that he had a clearly more talented QB on the bench.


This isn’t true. Lawrence was outperforming Bryant through the first 4 games. Also, the reason why Dabo went with Lawrence after 4 games was to preserve Bryant’s redshirt which allowed him to transfer out.
Posted by FooManChoo
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Posted on 11/7/20 at 9:06 pm to
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Kelly Bryant didn't play poorly enough to get benched either. Clemson was undefeated when Dabo pulled the trigger. He just saw that he had a clearly more talented QB on the bench.

The difference is that Kirby wanted to do whatever it took to keep them both on the roster while Dabo didn't really care if Bryant left. Kirby was scared to find himself in the situation that Clemson was in when Bryant transferred and Lawrence got hurt and they had to play Chase Brice against Syracuse.
Dabo is an offensive guy. Kirby is a defensive guy. Their approaches to the offense are different, but again, the contexts are different. Bryant was risking losing his last year of eligibility if he wasn't replaced right away and Dabo even commented about not wanting to "trap" Bryant at Clemson with Lawrence on the rise. They saw something with Lawrence in pre-season and in the games early on where he traded possessions with Bryant that proved he could hold his own and then the game against GT sealed the deal. Bryant struggled, Lawrence took over and Clemson won. It was obvious at that point that Lawrence had won.

We simply didn't have the same situation at UGA. The risk vs. reward wasn't there. And while Fields looked good running with the ball, he simply didn't show some sort of obvious dominance on the field throwing the ball at the time. He got a lot of snaps during the season but Fromm didn't do enough to lose the job.
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