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re: This is Why Nobody Wanted to Hire Mike Leach

Posted on 10/12/20 at 9:33 pm to
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
6266 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 9:33 pm to
No one really expected anything out of MSU until they beat LSU and then everyone lost their minds with expectations.

Had you said MSU would be 1-2 with a loss to LSU and a split with AR and UK before the season no one would be surprised or really disappointed. But when they dominated LSU, that changed.

I know nothing, but changing the culture of a locker room is not a 3 game process. Will probably get worse before better. Hopefully he can get buy in from key guys on the team.
Posted by Captain Falcon
Member since Apr 2020
681 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 9:51 pm to
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No one really expected anything out of MSU until they beat LSU and then everyone lost their minds with expectations.

Had you said MSU would be 1-2 with a loss to LSU and a split with AR and UK before the season no one would be surprised or really disappointed. But when they dominated LSU, that changed.

I know nothing, but changing the culture of a locker room is not a 3 game process. Will probably get worse before better. Hopefully he can get buy in from key guys on the team.


Very accurate post. This is not a very good State team but nobody expected anything from them until they beat LSU, then all of the sudden it was Costello for Heisman and Top 15 in the polls. We can clearly see now that it was an overreaction. As a State fan I was very excited about the LSU win, but the last two weeks have shown that there is still a long way to go.

This roster is not ready to run this offense at a high level consistently. They are struggling with pass protection and turning it over a zillion times a game. Scheme means nothing when you do that. You may see them light up somebody else this season and have another upset win, and you may also see more of what you saw against Arkansas and Kentucky.

It was always going to be more about the long term with Leach and less about this season. Had Moorhead returned everyone would've expected this team to suck, and even with Leach most only expected something like the Liberty or Birmingham Bowl.

Totally possible this ends up not working out, but I don't think you'll be able to know for sure until about 2022. This State team may end up being a bad one, doesn't necessarily mean that this season is indicative of what the the future will be. It took him a couple of years at both Texas Tech and Washington State to get things going. His first team at WSU actually had a worse record than his predecessor had the year before.
Posted by Krampus
Member since Nov 2018
5207 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 10:51 pm to
Agree. At the time it seemed like beating LSU was a big deal. But if MSU and LSU were to play next week, instead of week one it would probably be considered a push. We all knew LSU would take a step back this year, but I don't think anyone expected them to be as bad as they've been. Turns out it just wasn't the impressive win it looked like at the time.
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